Butlins Skegness Snooker Table work , just completed three re-covers in the Green baize + other work

I have just been over to Butlins in Skegness
My work load for this visit was to re-cover three full size snooker tables and fit a good second hand cloth to a torn table to make good
also fit new nets and leather to one table and check all 16 tables for loose or broken  straps and nets and leathers .
I also provided two new dust covers for Free as a thank you for repeat work bookings.
Butlins march 2016 strip down 1st day
1st day strip down full size snooker table and re-cover + fit second hand cloth to torn bed table
butlins march 2016 1st day strip steel down
this was the table that had the second hand bed cloth fitted , the table is a burroughs and watts steel cushioned table , one of two steel cushioned tables in the Green Baize .
Butlins march 2016 ist day finished table
Finished 1st recover on the 1st day .
Butlins march 2016 strip two more tables down
Two more tables being stripped ready for new cloth , in this photo the cushions being re-covered
Butlins March 2016 bed cloths on two
The two tables have just had the new bed cloths stretched and tacked on and they are now ready for marking out with baulk line D and spots
Butlins march 2016 finished two tables
the two tables are completed and ready for play in their Strachan 6811 tournament 30 oz cloth
just because it is a holiday camp we do not cut corners on cloth quality , this is top quality first grade cloth no seconds or faulty cloth or low grade manufactured imported cloth is used by GCL Billiards
only the best for our clients .
Bultins march 2016 finsihed and playing on two
and these Holidaymakers were very keen to try out the new cloth , notice we also replaced the nearest tables nets and leathers.
We replace one set every time we call and then use the older good nerts to repair any worn out nets in the hall on other tables
by doing this we keep the costs down and nothing is thrown away before it is had its full use  , a part worn nets still has life in it so why throw it away
by recycling nets around the room we are keeping replacements costs low saving butlins money but still, maintaining a good playing standard within the room of the tables .
Arrangements have been made for me to call again at the end of the year to check over the tables for other work , I have an ongoing maintenance routine with Skegness Butlins .
they really do try and keep a good standard of snooker table , but with many youngsters and young holidaymakers playing they do get torn and misused now and again .
Butlins march 2016 finished job veiw down room
with 16 full size snooker tables there is always something to do on each visit .

Titan 6ft snooker table , not so good cushion fixings on this type of table

I have been over to Rugby to re-cover a 6ft Titan snooker table
this table was made in china and branded Titan here in the UK.
there was a problem with the cushions being loose on this type of table and here are a few photo’s to show why you should be very wary of chinese made tables
Titan 6ft bad bolt fixing
This is a bolt nut insert on the underside of the cushion , a bolt is passed through the slate and the cushion is supposed to clamp down onto the slate on each edge
the problem was these inserts just unscrewed out when tightening the cushions down to the slate bed , it is not a good design and you fine this type of fixing more on American pool tables rather than snooker /Billiard tables
titan 6ft finished level on
I did manage to tighten them up a bit and this is the finished table
I informed my client to make holes in the outer edge and wood screw the cushions on using large screws with brass cups , this will improve the bounce
I can see the under bolts coming loose as the ball hits the cushions , it is a terrible design flaw on this type of table
if you require advice on buying a table look through my reports and see what to avoid , this type of table is one of those that you should avoid because of the faulty bolt fixings
apart fromt that is was ok really .

Open up pockets and re-cover on Karnehm and Hillman snooker table

I have been over to Nottingham to re-cover a Karnehm and hillman snooker table , move it approx 6 inch to one side and then 6 inch towards baulk end
plus open pockets up to nearly 4 inch at the drop , I shaved off and reshaped around 1/8th off each side .
K&H pocket opening
Close to 4 inch at the drop and my client was very pleased with this opening
he is not any where near close to professional standard , and only plays for fun and required really wide pocket openings
This table used to be located at Newark Cue club and had 3.5 inch openings at the fall
K&H pocket opening at rear

these K&H tables close up towards the rear of the pocket and as you can see it is a more respectful 3.5 inch at the rear
K&H pocket opened up
the finished table re-covered in 6811 Strachan tournament 30 oz cloth .
My client is very happy with the way we moved the table and also opened up his pocket openings at the fall to nearly 4 inch
I am sure he will enjoy his snooker even more now .

For sale very old Antique Jelks 6ft x 3ft Billiard / Snooker Table with barley twist legs with drawer features ….very rare find and collectable

We have a client based in Berlin in Germany who wishes to sell their very nice and old Antique Jelks billiard table circa 1890/1900
A most unusual collectable piece of Billiards memorabilia  for a person who has not got enough room for a large full size or even a 8ft or 9ft
This table oozes character , with the sought after Barley twist legs and unusual storage of Drawers built into the frame work
My Client has supplied some superb photo’s
Jelks 1
Photo from one end looking down on the cloth
Jelks 2
Photo from one side also looking down onto cloth

Jelks 3
Rustic oak type woodwork renovated by Hamiltons and at a very expensive price when first bought
the thin barley twist legs are a very rare find
Jelks 4
Very unusual to find twin drawers at one end for storage .
Jelks 5
The table comes complete with all the tackle as shown in this photo.
Jelks 6
another unusual side drawer storage compartment
Jelks 7
My client would like to point out the tables only fault , a wood crack on a end cross member , this can be glued and clamped or maybe even wood crewed from underneath
a bit of stain polish and it will then blend in .
it is nothing serious .
My client is looking for £1000 for this rare piece of billiards history , if anyone is interested either in the Uk of in Germany , just email me and I will forward you my clients contact details .
You can always contact Hamiltons and find out what they sold this table for , but you should be sitting down when they inform you !

 

Working away all next week at Butlins Skegness , please leave email messages I will answer next Saturday .

I am working away in Skegness all next week and will be away from the phone due to very weak signal in metal clad building in Butlins
so please send emails only , and I will answer them next weekend when I get back to my PC.
Butlins Skegness
I am working in the Green Baize in Skegness butlins re-covering and general maintenance to the many full size snooker tables .
butlins 8 and 9 tables
I visit Skegness Butlins around three times a year maintaining either american pool / uk pool or full size snooker tables
Butlins hotshots artscape bud dec 2015
The Hot Shots American pool table area is also another part of Butlins where I maintain the cue sports tables .
Butlins team diner dec 2015
also the team diner where they have two supreme winner pool tables for staff use .

For sale , Burroughs & Watts steel cushioned full size snooker table in Norfolk Reduced to £500 !

March 21st update reduced to £500 , this is very good price for a steel cushioned table of This quality Vintage Burroughs and watts

 

We have a Client who wishes to sell their full size Burroughs & watts full size snooker table
The table has the sought after Steel cushions
B&watts norfolk steel square leg side veiew
the table has square tapered legs with mouldings just above toe and at joint of frame skirt  as they taper joins the main upper block
B&watts steel cushion table norfolk end cush name plate
The Makers Name plate on one end cushion shows Patent Eureka Steel Vacuum Cushions.
now reduced to just £500 !
Steel cushions are much better for rebound value and that is why they are more sought after on the second hand market
only a small percentage of full size snooker tables have these steel cushions fitted , they are considered professional standard
Today more modern pocket plates and openings are the way forward , these B&watts tables will not take a ball at speed into the centre pocket as the plate is of 1900 design and not 2016
Burroughs and watts where one of the better makers of Billiard tables
They where bought out by E.J Riley in the 1960s and then the name disappeared , it has recently been resurrected by a Birmingham firm who uses the name, but they have no direct links to the old Established Victorian firm that made this table . but they use the history on their web site which is questionable and gives the impression they are the same firm to people who do not read in between the lines .
But this table is a Genuine Burroughs and watts circa 1910 to 1930s circa ?
B&watts norfolk table other side and cloth
I have not got any clearer photo’s of this table
it is based in North Norfolk near Melton constable , any enquiries to Geoff at GCL billiards

contact email is…………………    c.large@btinternet.com

or telephone 07753466064

Two full size snooker tables for sale Derbyshire / Staffordshire area

We have two full size snooker tables for sale , I set these tables up and re-covered them only a few months ago for a select Private members club venture
Sadly due to lack of interest and USE !
They are up for sale , offers to Geoff at GCL Billiards please
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The first table is a Riley Regis turned leg
The second table is Riley square leg type , both table’s have new nets and leathers fitted also new Strachan 6811 tournament cloth last year and hardly used .
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The tables where lovingly looked after so you will be getting well cared for tables
they come complete with balls scoreboard and all tackle .
modern lighting is also available but at extra cost .
Offers to c.large@btinternet.com  , you can view and try out these tables , they are coming down after the third week of March .
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this was only last year when we put the table’s in
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we have a JCB type  telehandler available on site  to get the tables downstairs and loaded onto any van
Both table are owned by a Friend of mine so any offers I will put forward to him , it would be nice and convenient to have them delivered on the same day of take down if possible .
or loaded onto your own transport ?
GCL billiards can quote for this , the table sale does not include dismantle delivery or setup , you can talk to the owner about costs for dismantle .
I will put any interested people directly in touch with the seller .

Full size snooker table Riley Viceroy set up in Machynlleth in Wales for Emyr

I have Just been over to Wales for two days to install a Very nice condition Riley Viceroy circa 1920/30
Emyr contacted me some months ago looking for a table , he was not ready as the room was not built so advised to look for one nearer room completion
Emyr had been reading my Blog input on this web site and after reading many descriptions on different tables and build quality he had settled on finding a Riley Viceroy.
Emyr got back to me , and said he had found a very nice Riley Viceroy in Wolverhampton and he had collected it with a Friend in a luton Van and stored it at home as the room was nearing completion.
Well the time had come to arrange to install the table .
Geoff wales frame up on square slate pads
Emyr is 6ft 2inch the same as myself and suffers from a back problem , so he had a friend make some square slate stone pads  .
he had these to lift the table around 1.5 inch , thus giving him a better posture for his back when leaning over the table.
above in the photo you can see these slate pads under each leg .
Geoff wales first slate on frame
First slate on and it got wet from wheeling it from the garage to the room
Geoff Wales slate aligning on frame
aligning the slate , we have to get the middle slate on dead centre with even overhang and dowel pin the next slates either side into the middle slate
you can if you look close in the gaps see the Brass dowel that locate into a brass rebated hole in the adjoining slate
once three have been pinned together we check again that the slate is parallel with even over hang each side before fixing the end slates into position
We wax the top of the frame with candle wax , this is so that the slate sections slide onto  and along the frame with ease  .
Geoff Wales checking level
the next stage we check the level , adjusting by jacking up the frame and sliding slate packings under the legs to adjust the level ,
these packers are called toe pieces and come in varying thicknesses .
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the toe pieces , different thickness to adjust level
Geoff wales level showing level
We adjust until the level shows 100% all around the table side to side  and end to end .
we use a 12 inch Rabone & Chesterman vintage Engineers level , people often ask why such a small level ?
Because it is more accurate to finding low spots between each slate joint , where a long level would span any faulty levels  .
These engineering levels have been used in the Billiard table industry for many years for accurate leveling of Billiard / snooker tables
Geoff Wales filling hole with car body filler
years ago the Billiards fitter would have used Plaster of Paris to blend in any slate joints .
today we use soft sand car body filler , above you can see we apply with 2 inch scraper , I am filling a large chip out of the slate which is on the edge of the slate
and we also skim along the entire length of every slate joint then lightly sand in for a perfect slate bed ready for bed cloth fitting  .
Geoff Wales sanding joint filler
A light sanding all over and along the joints to make sure of no grit or lumps on the slate bed
if you do not do this you may find when you iron a table that the iron jumps on impact with a lump under the cloth
we lightly sand all over the slate and then wipe and vac the dust and grit off the slate bed .
Geoff wales bed cloth sprinkle tacks and jack
The bed cloth laid on and tacks sprinkled around ready for Stretching on of the bed cloth
this table had recently been re-rubbered and re-covered with new nets and leathers also being revamped
my client paid a good medium price for the table and if we take into account what had been renovated on the table shortly before he got it .
then he paid very little for it indeed . in fact you could say the table owes him nothing .
Even the scoreboard on the wall which antique dealers go nuts for is worth around £400 to £500 on the retail market .
where many Antique Dealers will not touch a full sizes snooker table because of all the hassle of lifting and transporting  ,
but they do go after the old accessories such as old scoreboards and rotating cue racks .
Geoff Wales string keeping baulk line straight
because the table bed cloth had been fitted before and was not brand new .
I positioned string in centre and also 31 inch from end of baulk end to guide me in getting the old Baulk line almost straight
Above Fitting the bed cloth
Geoff Wales Tacking FEB2016
Some billiard fitters use a magnetic tack hammer , I prefer to use a Stanley 8 oz pin hammer
I have used this hammer for 40 years and it is very hard for me to try anything else .
you get used to the tool you use most often , and I doubt that I will ever use a magnetic one
I did try one once but gave up after about the 5th tack , the balance and feel was not there so why change !
Geoff Wales finished pose with cue
Emyr got me to pose for this last Photo , many of my clients are shocked to find that I do not play the game of snooker or Pool
I just do not have any interest in playing the game , I am more interested in the history of tables and old furniture in general.
don’t get me wrong though I do know how to put side and  back screw and forward roll onto a ball and also  get to know the speed of table within the first few shots
I get many players complaining of slow tables and fast tables some like slow some like fast  , a good player can adjust his or her game to play on any speed of cloth .
as for new rubber if fitted and pockets cut correct they will accept balls at speed , and do not forget brand new rubber requires bruising in for a month or so of regular play before they start to rebound faster .
Emyr is going to take a few more photo’s of the table when the room is a bit more tidy all the photo’s you see where taken by Emyr who is a Photographer and has something to do with the very rare Ospreys that are breeding in Wales  , He has even Written a book about the Osprey in Wales .
Ospreys book Emyr Evans