Correct pocket openings on a Riley steel cushioned Aristocrat Snooker table after bad set up in Birmingham

I have been contacted by a client in the West Midlands who purchased a table from a firm not too far away , close to Sheffield.
He was after a Genuine UK made  twin bolted framed Riley Aristocrat to match specs including pocket openings as close to template as possible which is 3.5 inch at the drop.
I was also instructed to replace the bed cloth due to an accident with a chocolate bar that his Daughter had left on the table .
Here are a few photo’s that describe some of the faults that I found on close inspection.
birm hussain centre pocket out of alignment to one side
the first thing that stick out was the center pocket openings where not central to the table  , as you can see from this photo , the pocket fall is slightly positioned to the left of the cushion center pocket gap ,
this made the baulk end pockets very tight 3.1/4 inch and the spot end pockets at 3.5 inch .
birm hussain before middle not set correct too small
as you can see the template does not fit within the cushions , the center pocket is too tight .
birm hussain centre template fin
From this photo, you can now see that I have altered the pocket opening and centered it up to the fall , the center pockets are now to match spec. that was the easy part to do , my client can now pocket balls at a bit more pace ,
before they where being spat back out , as there was not enough gap to allow the ball to fall properly. they where ricocheting back and forth between the tight close together angles .
I was not re-covering the cushions so could not see if I could improve the undercut a bit more to reduce this even further , but did comment to my client that on the next cushion re-cover.
I could improve them a bit more by cleaning up any rough cut rubber that had not been finished off smooth .
birm hussain corner pen cut line to template
By careful removal and fold back of the cushion cloth on the corner , I placed my template and found that I had to remove a fair amount of rubber to make the pocket openings 3.5 inch at the fall .
above I have drawn around the template onto the top of the rubber to show just how tight these pocket opening are , the fitter who closed the middle pockets up , did this to make the corner pockets wider
The table pocket opening where not uni formal , you had two at 3.5 inch two at 3.1/4 inch and the center pockets tight and out of alignment with the center fall .
It was apparent that they just made the two spot end corner pockets that are used most in the game of snooker to template and just bodged the other corners and middle openings , and made a quick exit .
The camera tells the story so they cannot deny this .
birm hussain corner template fin
With the rubber cut and sanded and the undercut also smoothed out , the baulk end pockets are now 3.5 inch , the same as the spot end corner pockets they are all uni formal .
It is always better to re-rubber on the table rather than on a bench , I have been re-rubbering cushions for 40 years , and I always ask if I can re-rubber on the table rather than take them into the workshop ,
it is much better to set the pockets to the tables own slate falls .
Sometimes it is not possible to do this as the table may be in storage or dismantled and you have the cushions to work on , I tend to make a mock pocket opening up using a large square and cardboard to find the slate fall
Different fitters are taught different ways , but I find my way suits me and I end up with good pocket openings that are not going to cause a problem going forward .
Birmingham hussain finished
My clients table with correct pocket openings with templates in the pocket , and new bed Strachan 6811 tournament 30 oz cloth fitted.
birm hussain screw holding plate up cowboy 1
One other problem that was spotted , the use of wood screws to hold up a loose pocket plate , these where only loose because they had not set the center pocket opening wide enough making the corner pocket plates sag down .
I removed these screws and packed a little cloth inside the two pin holes that the twin pins from the pocket plate locate into , this made them ultra tight .
the use of screws over time would mean the ends of these cushions being chewed up , the wood falls apart and the pocket plate will become even looser .
A bad way of finishing the job off .
I also noted that this table did not have the proper adjustable slate muntins , under the table , these should wind up to the slate to prevent sagging down in the middle .
birm dummy bolt hole upper one
above  photo , the top button has a hole for a button but no hole in the side long frame rail with nut has been drilled , this is a a dummy bolt hole to make it look like it is a genuine twin bolt hole table , but the fact that the dummy bolt hole is near the top of the leg rings alarm bells it should be lower than this .
The table was ordered to be a genuine twin bolt UK made  Riley Aristocrat match table , in my professional opinion if I was asked , is that this table was originally a one bolt hole frame table , extra bolt holes have been added , but the end of the frame has only one bolt in and the top bolt hole is a dummy , this would not be the case if the table was genuine Riley Match play Aristocrat .
now I do not name and shame other firms , I do not get into arguments , but if a client is paying me good money to put a table right and asks why it was bad , I cannot say I will not comment , he is paying me not only for my time but my professionalism in the art of a fully qualified billiards table fitter , so if he asks me what the problem is before I remove the first screw and it is as obvious as these photo’s then I have to explain truthfully .
I take photo’s to prove this to be the case and also explain it by posting on my web blog .
so if you have a problem with a way a table is performing , it may be that the rubber is sitting on too high block work or that the pockets have not been cut to a template correct or set up correct in alignment as was the case here .
If you have any of the above problems then contact Geoff  at GCL Billiards on email c.large@btinternet.com  .
We will try to help sort out any problems you have been having with your table .

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GCL billiards also provide a rental service for pool tables
Our table of choice is the highly sought after world championship supreme winner pool table in 7ft by 4ft external measurements.
We have a nice oak finished table that will be ready to install on a 12 month rental contract in stock NOW.
winner at the gladstone
The table will be covered in Genuine Strachan napped 6811 all wool cloth
unless you require speed cloth for your venue .
winner-at-the-gladstone side view coin mech
Side view of Supreme Winner in oak with chrome metal corners and alloy cushion trim , this is the latest design of the supreme winner as used by the World and UK championships.
winner-badge world championship table green
The latest Green badge , showing the endorsements of the World Eightball pool federation and the UK pool tour .
supplied with genuine Aramith Pool balls  in reds and yellows , 4 cues , triangle and Brush plus soft black peradon fitted table cover .

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Scrap and recycle one old snooker table and replace with modern pool table , in Lincolnshire .

Today I have been over in Lincolnshire to remove a full size snooker table from an officers mess at an RAF base.
We where contacted a few months ago for a quote to do this work ,
The full size snooker table was scrapped and recycled at a friends salvage yard in Grimsby.
RAF lincs down to slates in room ready for trolley
the full size table we where taking out of the snooker room , This table had lower quality rubber that was dead and a very thick none branded cloth fitted by a local company that should have known better than to use cheap low cost materials .
I would never have used these lower quality materials , it may cost a bit more to use high quality northern rubber and Strachan 6811 tournament cloth but the work would have been quality .
this is how firms undercut GCL billiards quoted price they use inferior materials .
The table cushions where in very bad shape the woodwork was coming apart , it was not cost effective to bring this table back up to a good standard so they opted for a pool table replacement .
they still have a second table , but i’m afraid this had also been refurbished by the local firm using inferior cloth and rubber .
RAF table as we where dismantling lincs
both tables , we removed the most unattractive and in my opinion the worst bounce from the cushions table .
Leaving this officers mess with a nice looking large bulbous legged table
raf supreme prince wide shot of pool
A second hand 7×5 pool table in very good condition , this Supreme Prince coin operated pool table is set to free play , with brand new Burgundy Strachan pool cloth .
this is supreme’s premier table design .
RAF lincs supreme prince pool table
The officer in charge of the mess was very pleased with the quality of the pool table  which came with a new set of balls 4 cues triangle , 12 red chalk and a Peradon fitted UK made dust cover.
RAF lincs table recycle outside ready
Our van outside the rear of the officers mess , we had arranged for the salvage yard in Grimsby to send down a ford transit low loader flat bed with crane to pick the slates and woodwork up , we kept back some spare parts for future use on other tables , such as pocket plates and bolts .
you can see we have stacked the slates in a three and a two , this is because the small crane attached to the transit low loader can only lift three slates at a time .
I’m afraid we have recycled a few full size snooker tables in the past three years , this is because demand for full size tables is not good and the market is flooded with tables for sale , we do try and relocate as many as possible by offering clients who wish to get rid , a free advert in our for sale section
if you are selling a property that has a full size snooker table and there is a condition to get the table removed for the buyer of the property , then failing a sale recycling is the only option left .

Pool table re-cover in Strachan Super Pro speed cloth

We can also offer an alternative type of cloth to re-cover pool tables.
Our normal cloth for pool tables is a choice between Strachan 777 and Strachan 6811
We are now offering by special order , a speed cloth
The speed cloth of our choice is also Strachan branded and is called a worsted wool man made fibre mix and branded as Strachan super pro speed cloth.
toton super pro
Strachan super pro , professional cue sports cloth
toton strip down pool
this table is located in a Garden cabin , we recommended this speed cloth due to the fact that the previous cloth absorbed too much condensation and played slow
with speed cloth it is a much faster thinner cloth with less damp retention , and ideal for situations like log cabins or Garden sheds and Garage locations .
toton pool table recover
The completed table , the owner is delighted with how the table is now playing and text me a couple of days later saying, it is vastly different to play on since  we fitted the speed cloth !
We only recommend speed cloth for UK type pool tables if you are playing in conditions that can turn cold and hot , Garden buildings and Garage type locations are well known for this and produce dampness int he cloth .
By using speed cloth we keep the damp content much lower and the table plays much faster .
We would like to draw your attention to the make of cloth we use Strachan is a quality UK made cloth
Please be aware of lower all man made speed cloth from Europe and the far east , this type of cloth marks badly with friction burns and would look very bad after a few hours of play , the Strachan super pro is in our opinion the better cloth to use , that good that we can even supply it with designs printed into the cloth , like the one’s we do for Butlins with Budweiser design imprinted into the cloth
Butlins Artscape Budwieser purple and green water
You can have a design imprinted into the super Pro Strachan speed cloth , but this is expensive to do , please ask for a quote ,
if using a football club logo or trade mark logo with protection rights you will require permission from the trade mark owners to reproduce it ,
you must get this in writing and sent through to Strachan  before any order can be processed for that design .
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Butlins Skegness 6 full size re-cover’s in Strachan 6811 Cloth

We have been to Butlins to finish off a large order .
Our last emergency visit resulted in us fitting 4 new bed cloths , on that visit it was noted that a further 6 tables required urgent work.
so we have just visited Skegness for a week to re-cover 6 full size snooker tables plus other maintenance work .
butlins 8 and 9 tables
Two of the tables we have just completed the re-covering with new Strachan 6811 all wool cloth
butlins april 2015 1 table
another of the tables we had just re-covered .
butlins april 2015 side table
Some of the tables where in very bad shape , having big L shape rips in and unplayable.
Butlins looking down the room april 2015
Looking down the room from the bar area , all of the tables now look Green rather than old faded torn cloths .
Butlins in Skegness is the only Butlins to offer Free snooker as part of the all inclusive entertainment package .
If you wanted to play snooker at Minehead or Bognor Regis Butlins Holiday Camp you would be charged for it .
This makes Skegness Butlins so unique to cue sport enthusiasts .
We wish to thank Rob and Albert for their continued support in using GCL billiards as the main contractor for the maintenance of cue sports tables at Skegness .

Snooker tables for sale , Look at GCL Billiards for low cost full size snooker tables , tables allways being listed and sold for Private sellers with good results .

We have a some very nice snooker tables ranging from Free to just a few hundred pounds
All these sales are by direct sale from the Seller to the Buyer with no fees to the buyer.
And we only charge £25 to the seller if we manage to link you up to a successful sale , and £25 is not much to ask for our service once sold ,  it is only to cover out time and effort on the PC to list all the photo’s and a few emails and the odd telephone call to help move a table on.
And we hope that any Buyer would use GCL billiards to dismantle and erect any table that is Advertised although sometimes it does not work out for us , we do get our fair share of moving these table so please use us, we are fair with our price for any work on your snooker table once bought , from just transporting and setting up to a full re-cover or re-rubber.

Take a look at the tables we have listed in our for sale section
free allied table full shot

From this table which is Free
gordon miles B&W accesoeies inc iron
or this Burroughs and watts Steel cushioned table asking for offers
star snooker table gold legs

to our most expensive table the latest Star steel cushioned table as used at the Academy in Sheffield close to the Crucible normally £8500 , but listed on GCL billiards web site at £5000 fitted
So if you are looking for a full sized snooker table then Buy direct from the seller and then contact Geoff at GCL billiards to dismantle transport and erect the table back up in your home or business

 

Re-stretch two full size snooker table bed cloths at local club in Derby.

We have just re-stretched and serviced two full size snooker table’s in Derby
This is a follow up procedure approx 12 months after the Re-cover to make sure the tables are playing fast the cloth is taken off and re-stretched back onto the table , the Baulk line is faded back and new Baulk line and spots are replaced
we then check the level and adjust if necessary .
linc brain cush off
I did forget to take my Camera to the Derby Club , but here is a photo of a table bed cloth I re-stretched in Lincoln
WBCC stetch baulk line
the faded back Baulk line , we use acetone to try and make the line fade even more , but sometimes if the owner has marked out in felt tip rather than pencil it cannot be taken out completely
acadamy getting table level
we always check the table for level on any major work , such as a re-cover or a re-stretch of bed cloth
Please note we can only get level 100% if the slate bed is ground and hand floated level and is well supported by the under frame muntins , if you have a table that has a fault in the slate such as a dip or uneven hand floating then this cannot be got out unless you have a very expensive re-float of the slate beds which mean the slate’s will have to be sent off to have this done , or re-place the slate’s , we also can do a modification to the under frame supports and add adjustable Brackets to support the slate , this we have done on a few clients tables .
Adjustable muntins K&hillman 2
muntins fitted adjustableAdjustable muntins K&hillman

Full size Snooker Table dismantle transport and assemble in Rugby club in Oxford by GCL billiards.

We often get people phone us to help with a sale of a full size snooker table , sometimes we can find them a buyer and other times we cannot , but if a house sale is imminent and the table has to be out then sometimes it is best just to donate a table for free .
as it is not worth a House sale falling through just because a snooker table has been left in the House which I have witnessed in the past .
Sometimes people are well organised and have decided what to do with their table well before any house sale becomes final , and here is one such story.

I took a phone call about three weeks ago from a Lady who’s husband had passed away , and she wanted to downsize from the house she was living, and it had now been sold but the Buyer’s did not want the full size snooker table.
She informed me she would like to give the full size snooker table to her late husbands other interest a local Rugby Club .
She wanted to not only give them the table but also pay for the dismantle and assemble of the table in one of the Clubs buildings.
I have today completed the task of this work setting out from my Home near Nottingham at 6 .30 am this morning , we arrived around 9.30 am after we stopped for one coffee break on the way to waken us up.
We arrived to find a very nice Large Home with a round 7.5 acres of woodland attached to it .
shotover oxford house £2m
a library photo of the woodland Home that we removed the full size table from , the buyer of this property did not require the snooker table and wished to use the room for other purpose.
Shotover oxford table
We arrived to find a nice Riley Aristocrat table circa 1990
shotover table slates on frame
we quickly set about stripping the table down re-moving the cushions and bed cloth to slate level.
shotover table frame left in room
We then re-moved the slate and loaded these straight onto the van , we then dismantled the frame and wrapped the parts in Blankets for safe transportation.

shotover table fully taken out empty room

The room is almost empty just the shade to load , from the first screw to the shade being loaded took us just over an hour.
We supplied a van and three men for this particular job.
We then followed the daughter of our client to a local Rugby club the other side of Oxford
Shotover rugby club new location table
The table assembled back together and ready for play in it’s new Home at Oxford Rugby club
If you are selling your home and the sale is dependent on the full size snooker table to be removed as part of the deal , then contact GCL billiards
We can advise on how best to remove the table at the most cost effective way , why risk the house sale falling through if you cannot come to an agreement about the table,
the buyer may lose interest in your home and may move on to another House to Buy , meaning you have lost your house sale .

if you have a problem on how to solve this issue !

Then Contact Geoff by Email ….c.large@btinternet.com

or mobile 07753466064

or Home 0115 972355  ( not always manned )
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A photo of our Van we use to transport full size snooker tables around the UK .
Rear view of van Igor