Repeat work in Lincolnshire at Butlins in Skegness on full size snooker tables

We have just completed some more work for Butlins in Skegness
this time we where working in the Green Baize , they have 16 Full size tables located in this room and all require some work on a rotating basis , they also have two table tennis tables and 6 dart boards plus a lounge seating area .
This time we where called to recover some of the tables and also check round all the tables for nets /leathers and nuts and screws on ball rails and repair as necessary .
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The snooker in the Green Baize at Skegness Butlins is Free to play  , so the tables do get some heavy traffic over the year and need regular visits from GCL billiards to maintain them
we also get called out for emergency repairs , some of the Butlins Clients do get a bit rough with the cloth and accidents do happen .
Butlins are a valued client of GCL billiards and we always try and be as competitive as possible , but never cut corners , we use the best cloth and materials to maintain them and still take our time to make sure the work is done to a professional standard .
We have a very good relationship with Rob , Albert and Wayne at Skegness , we like to think we are trusted to do good work and we strive to maintain this standard , that is why we get repeat work and will always regard Butlins as a main Client .
We know other firms are always contacting Butlins for the work at Skegness , we like to think we have proved our worth as good contractors and a feeling of mutual trust has emerged over the last couple of years between the Butlins management and GCL Billiards  .
We hope to continue our working relationship with Butlins for many years to come .

Antique 6×3 foot Snooker table for sale ….very good build quality !

We have a client who wishes to sell on their 6×3 snooker table which looks to have adjustable bottom turners on the legs
I have come across these type of table’s before in similar design and they are very well made vintage of around 1900 /10 maybe a little earlier and are called Parlour Billiard tables
Definitely a Victorian piece of furniture , and you can see the old brass domed screws on the cushions  , these large brass domed screws where also used in the undertakers business to fasten coffin lids down hence why Billiard fitters named them coffin screws , they where widely used in the furniture and billiards table manufacturing and the name coffin screws stuck because that’s what they where mainly used for .
This table cost our clients £1000 when it was supplied to them as can be seen from the last photo of the Receipt in 2001 .
I think that the table is a fixed height table so cannot be made to rise and fall ?  like some Billiard dining tables , but have noticed the cut away on the end for peoples legs to clear the table frame when seated , so it may have been designed to have high chairs and a table top which is not supplied with the table , it is being sold just as a fixed height snooker table , I am not too sure but maybe the rise and fall system is in the adjustable leg heights and it may be a Billiard diner without the top leafs .
possible Victorian billiard table  manufactures are George Edwards / George wright ?
If you are looking for a nice 6ft snooker table then you cannot go far wrong in buying this one …the seller is open to offers , may I remind[people who make an offer that this table is not fold away Argos table , it has a slate bed and is designed to be a permanent fixture rather than one to be moved from room to room .
I would say the current value as it stands is somewhere around the £250 /£300 mark , but our clients are willing to listen any offer that is reasonable .
if any one is interested from the photo’s then contact Geoff at GCL Billiards , he will put you in touch with the seller.
6x3 snooker dots 1 6x3 snooker dots 2 6x3 snooker dots reciept for £1000

Riley Aristocrat in Derbyshire, put right the wrongs of this installation !

I have been over to a country village in Derbyshire to help the owner improve his potting skills on his refurbished Riley Aristocrat Steel Block table.  I found a few faults with the table on inspection and recommended the following:

Open up the 3.25 inch pockets to just under 3.5 inch at the fall.  These pocket openings were far too tight and reminded me of the old billiard tables size of 3.25 inch pockets of Joe Davis’ era of the early 1930’s.

I also found one cushion bolt snapped into the slate and the level was not good enough.

Also they had fitted Hainsworth Smart cloth and the owner was complaining of very slow table cloth speed.  Not surprising it is was a little slow around the spot end as the end cloth was not tacked down for 2 feet.

The cloth looked a bit rough and the owner did iron this on a regular basis.  I recommended Strachan 6811 Tournament 30 oz.

So I got to work opening the pockets up on strip down, slicing off a fair amount of rubber in the pocket openings to my template standard fit.  These old Templates are not the current type as used by World Snooker but they are as near as you can get.  Apparently normal billiard fitters are not allowed to own a set of current templates.  So I used the old ones as a guide and found them to be just under 3.5 inch when covered in cloth at the fall.
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A painted silver riley Aristocrat with cloth off.  Note just one bolt in corner leg.  I think this is a licensed copy of a UK made Aristocrat which I have noted have two bolts in the frame at the corner legs.
1 and 3/4 inch Italian slate
Hulland ward 6811 embroidery Hulland ward riley cloth 6811 transfer
I always like to show my clients that I use the best Strachan 6811 grade Tournament 30 oz cloth , the embroidered writing with blue lines confirms this and also the transfer every 10ft on the underside of the cloth also confirms type of cloth and the weight  standard . Club 6811 has two red lines this higher grade tournament has two blue lines .
This cloth replaced the lower grade Hainsworth smart which was a bit too thick and the nap was not as fine as this 6811 T .
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the templates used and the size of the pocket opening at the slate fall is a shade under 3.5 inch , with the cushions being steel block the rubber starts to open back up after the slate fall , normal older table cushions like the old Riley imperials have a tendency to close up to by a 1/4 of an inch as the rubber bends round into  into the pocket fall . some thing that Snooker players cannot understand and ask for the pockets to be opened up on normal cushions and I have to explain why they cannot do this , unless they opt for replacement modern cushions or steel block .
any way the owner is delighted with all his corner pockets being at Match standard of a shade under 3.5 inch and that the middle pockets where also to template , these where slightly tight too before I started the work.
if the middle pocket openings had been correct and both side cushions pushed apart by a further 1/8th then the corner pockets would have been even tighter  at around 3.1/8th at the drop , I always start from the middle pockets when looking at the correct pocket openings in the corner , get the middles wrong and you also get the corners wrong on steel cushions,  so the first thing to check if corner pockets are tight or too generous on steel cushions is the pocket opening at the centre pockets which should be 3.3/8ths if cut correct .
once the centre pockets are correct then you can adjust the corners to template or just below 3.5 inch for Match sized pocket openings. you do this by cutting excess rubber off and then hand rasp and sanding rubber to form the correct angle using templates as a guide.
If you want club sized 3.5/8th or above sized pockets you just take more off but keep the same profile as the template curve .

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the side cushions being positioned so that the centre pockets are correct with the centre templates fitted into the opening , the Cushion bolt photo is showing that I rub candle wax over each cushion bolt , the main culprit for snapped cushions bolts is grit into the bolt hole and also thread binding , a little candle wax rubbed onto the thread makes for a lubricated thread , you may ask why not use WD 40 or oil , well the oil and WD40 will leach into the slate and you will get stains in the cloth around each bolt stud insert inside the slate .
Never be tempted to use any oil based lubricant on bolts on a snooker table , once inside the slate the oil will be there forever and your table will be ruined especially if you have under slate heating as the heat will force the oil upwards .
and I have seen it done a few times. Use Candle wax it is much better suited for the job.
I have still to get the snapped cushion bolt out of the end slate , this will be done in 6 to 12 months time at Re-stretch , I will order a slate insert and new bolt for this .
This will be a tricky job as the end slate will have to be turned upside down and the old lug drilled out , the hole to be cleaned of all debris and new insert threaded lug put in and car body filled over to keep inside the slate , I put melted wax in the thread and on the bolt when putting the car body filler in to keep threads from getting fouled with the filler .
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A photo showing that the corner pockets although not the official templates they are not far out as the two balls show they are not generous pocket openings
hulland ward one ball in corner
a white ball on it’s own for comparison
Hulland ward finished table set up
The finished table.  My client will add a few words about the work at  a later date.  He has yet to play on the table and he is installing three tube heaters under the table around 10 inches below the slate bed on a trip out thermostat set at 25 degrees Celsius.  When this work is done the table will be even faster.  He did comment that it was already faster than the Hainsworth smart cloth that was used when he bought the table from a firm in Leeds.

I was really shocked that they had left him with centre and corner pockets so tight.  I did not have my camera with me for the first part of the work otherwise I would have taken photos of the pocket openings.  As for the snapped cushion bolt, they also chiselled some of the frieze bolt hole away resulting in a missing frieze bolt too.  We will sort all this out on the re-stretch and make the frieze a much better fitting to steel cushions.

Repeat work in Leicestershire for local club with 5 full size snooker tables to re-cover in Strachan 6811 tournament

This is the third time I have visited this club to Re-cover their Full size snooker tables
they seem to suffer cushion cloth split after around 18 months of use and play for 6 months with split cushions ?   , and after some research I found it was down to meticulous cleaning  of the tables , not really  bad thing as it is very hard to fine people so enthusiastic to look after club tables .
Just a little guidance on the cloth splitting  , and how it was happening and a simple adjustment of less pressure to the brush at the cushion angle is all that is required
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I have got to know the person who cleans the tables very well and I have given him a new Pure Bristle Brush to replace the badly worn one so that this prevents the wood of the brush making contact with the cloth on the cushions .
this and the sharp angle of rubber is what was the cause .
I have sanded the angles a little too , a slight rounding off of the sharp edge will also help prevent cloth splitting of cushions .
Ivanhoe finished table ivanhoe new pocket leather and net
The main room , 5 Riley Imperial Snooker tables Circa 1930s ? with New Cushions fitted by Riley Services in the 1990’s
this Venue is very well used and believe it or not snooker is less than £2 per Hour . the table’s get re-covered every 2 years for that and I always replace on one of the tables with new nets and leathers every time I visit .
Thus the nets and leathers are also kept to a reasonable standard of maintenance .

Derbyshire Youth club American pool table re-cover

I have been to a local youth club to re-cover their small 7ft American three section slate pool table in best quality Strachan super pro speed cloth .
Although just a youth club I still used the best cloth as I think this cloth is far better than the Euro American pool cloth and I charged the same price as the lower cloth so the youth club leaders where delighted with that .
Just a couple of Photo’s one before and one after .
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the original cloth was the easy to rip type of cloth , and would not have been my recommendation to use in a youth club .
The new cloth is more durable and I think a far better colour than the off blue/green turquoise colour used before .

 

FREE TABLE NOW GONE ….The table has now been claimed for FREE !

TABLE HAS NOW BEEN CLAIMED FOR FREE !

The table has been reserved and will be dismantled on the 7th of October by GCL billiards and delivered to Melton Mowbray for storage for new owner .

You cannot get better than this , a quality Riley Regis UK manufactured Full Size snooker table with turned legs FREE .

This table has the upgraded slide in panel on the heavier wood cushions , the basic model had a screw on panel on very light weight wood cushions. so this model you get a much better bounce off the ball off those firmer cushions.
I am told the table plays superb , A present for a young son to learn the art of snooker who has now outgrown flown the nest so to speak .
and his parents are left with a full size snooker Table to dispose of .
Now it’ gets better, with the table is the following
a set of balls
a nice 4 handed Scoreboard
Cue Rack with cues
Lighting shade
Triangle
Long Tackle
Rests
there may even be a cover ?
All you will have to organise is for a billiards fitter to dismantle load and unload and erect at your end , this cost will be down to the buyer or receiver of the Snooker table  in this case as it is FREE
Take a look at what you get for FREE !
Swindon riley regis Free

 

 

All enquiries to Geoff at c.large@btinternet.com

Geoff will forward any genuine enquiries to the owners , and no the iron is not available as a separate sale ,

The Owners know the current state of the second hand snooker table market and just wish to move the table on swiftly without any hassle , they are moving house and the new owners do not require a full size snooker table , they have other use’s for the room .
as you can see the table looks the business , but please do not expect a pristine table , there will be signs of use not only on the cloth but the odd belt buckle rash on the cushions and the odd vacuum knock on the legs , it is a well used much loved item , and deserves to go to someone else who will use it .
To all you people who are thinking of building a snooker room at the bottom of the Garden , a double Garage conversion to games room , a Log cabin , this is the ideal table for you and it’s FREE yes FREE .
Time limit for the collection of this table is 4 to 6 Weeks , from today 2nd September 2014 so we would like to help our clients give this table away by the 10th October if possible.

Look at GCL Billiards for sale section for more Bargains . it is free to advertise a table on GCL billiards web site , but if we link you to a buyer then all we ask is a £25 admin fee for email work and listings work on the PC , if no one buys then no charge .

 

 

 

Long Weekend Break from 28th of August in Amiens France, We will be back for business on the 2nd September .

We will be closing for business on Friday the 28th August for 4 Days while we are out of the country.
For any Emails or telephones calls please wait until Tuesday the 2nd of September for a reply .
We are off to Amiens in France to watch Ice Hockey , our local Nottingham Panthers ice Hockey team are playing in a pre season Tournament there.
I have been watching the Nottingham Panthers since 1980 with my wife and 4 years later when we had our first Daughter we also took her just 4 months old and the second Daughter too they are now aged 29 and 23.

The last time we where over there I did not have time to look around Amiens as I divided my long weekend , with a work trip setting a table up in a farm house for two days and Ice Hockey for two days
This time around I will have more time to see the sites of Amiens , and I am hoping to see a few World War one memorial sites and battle fields if possible , take a look below at the river side Cafe’s and the Grand Notre Dam of Amiens
it is amazing that this monument of a Cathedral is still standing , look at the end of war photo taken in 1919 of what Amiens looked like after world war one , and then take into account another war to contend with as well .
Amiens riverside cafe's Amiens Notredam
Amiens bombing during warAmiens town shopping centre

Riley club fluted legged snooker table for sale in Chidingley East Sussex

We have a client who has to sell their full size Riley Club table .
the house is under offer and a quick sale is required ASAP
The table is located in Chidingley East sussex
This table was made circa 1913 to 1960s , being as it has the button hole covers to cushion bolts , it is one of the early tables
Later tables would have have had slide in cushion panels to cover cushion bolt holes , it looks like the buttons are missing from this table .
But they can be made easy and are available to order by the buyer  if the table is sold
Have a look at the following photo’s , and if you are interested please contact Geoff at GCL Billiards on email c.large@btinternet.com with OFFERS for the table , price does not include dismantle and transportation , you can ask GCL Billiards for a price for this , please let me have a post code if you require a quote for dismantle delivery and set up
I will forward all the information of our selling client to you and forward your information to the selling client also.
Riley club fluted leg 1 riley club fluted leg side 2 riley club fluted leg top shot 3
The end plates on the cushions read Riley Burwat , this was a joining of two firms Burroughs and watts and Rileys , Burwat was joined to Riley’s in 1960s when Riley,s bought Burroughs and watts out , in the 1970s/80s Riley dropped the burwat name and went back to just Riley as a main name for the firm .
These name plates would have been put on in the 1960’s when the table was re-rubbered , I do not know if the table has since had another re-rubber , only the owner could give that information .
the table is in Private use and looks to have all accessories with the table , I do not know what type of scoreboard is with the table or if the table has an iron and cover
but contact with the owner could sort out what is with the table and what is not .
This table has to be sold soon rather than later , so you just may get a Bargain ……Offers?

*** I do not know if the table is upstairs at this moment in time I have asked the question but waiting for a reply  , but looking at one of the photo’s I can see a slanting roof rafters , so suggest this may be the case , to keep costs low the buyer may have to supply a little labour to help get the slates downstairs if this is the case , otherwise it is a 4 man job and twice the man power costs to remove this table . so please take this into consideration  when offering a price for the table .

Further info

Table is upstairs on the first floor and 4 men put it up there ,  so extra men will be required , but we do have professional slate slide which requires just three men if the stair is ok to use this on for example  no turns just a straight downwards stair. otherwise it is another 4 man job .

included with the table is two old iron’s and a cloth cover , plus various cue’s cue rack triangle and scoreboard and also the light if required , but we do recommend getting the new type low cost lighting that every one seems to be going over to , these coffin shades are now a bit old fashioned and do not give good lighting and plenty of side shadow of the ball . new high frequency lighting improves to give good sighting of balls with less shadow and they are very low cost to buy .