WANTED 8ft period snooker / billiard table for client

We have a client based in the cotswolds that is looking for a period style antique to semi modern 8ft snooker table.
The table must be of excellent build quality and my client favors turned legs but if the right square legged period table came up he may reconsider
my client after taking advice would like a three section slate bed , six legged, with bolts to cushions into slate
No wood screwed on cushions or one piece slate bed will be considered .
The table will also have to have good flat and true slate bed , things like rubber and cloth and nets and leathers can be replaced if required .
also polish condition depending on price if high then in A1 order all around , if low than my client can fund a total restoration .
TABLES LIKE THESE WILL BE CONSIDERED
8ft antique table fluted legs
fluted leg
8ft hennig bros
above Hennig Bros tulip leg
8ft table skegness chapel johnemery
a modern 8ft table
oak 9ft viceroy cloth draped
The Riley viceroy with deep archways .
Ashbourne 9ft glued and waiting to dry rubber and cushions
not an 8ft but an older design 9ft , my client definitely requires an 8ft
paul west snooker table 9ft 2
another larger table but the design may work
oxon 9ft george wright finished
8ft in Log Cabin George wright . reeded leg .
Oxon George wright 9ft
Same 8ft George wright table showing three section slate bed
oak 9ft viceroy finished balls on
a Riley Viceroy in Honey oak .
orme 9ft set up near yarmouth from retford
another three section slate bed table

Pool table re-cover in Special order Bright golden Yellow smart cloth for King Billy Pub nottingham , also printed designer cloth info .

We have just completed a re-cover in special order Hainsworth smart Golden Yellow Pool cloth .
the table was a project work in progress for an Art Student for her studies , and was completely funded by her .
The King William IV pub is a well known real ale pub located around the Sneinton and Lower Parliament Street area close to the Nottingham Ice Arena
on Manvers Street and Eyre Street corner .
My instruction from Carys was to re-cover the pool table in a bespoke colour of gold and the nearest we could get was Hainsworth Smart Golden yellow .
This just happens to be the same colour as Nottingham Panthers Ice hockey shirts . who are located just around the corner at the NIC .
King Billy pool before during strip down Green
the pool table was a Valley pool type I think manufactured in Wales ? and of 1980s circa .
above you can see the badly faded green cloth which has a mountain of chalk dust under and one pocket opening,  and had a ridge of dust preventing a slow ball from falling in
I  Do not think this table had been recovered for years there was also a hole in the black spot area .
king billy yellow gold cloth being glued bed cloth
With the cushions off and fully stripped of cloth and staples , I cleaned the slate and made good ready for glue to be spread to slate and under part of cloth edge .
the old glue was in places interfering with a ball running into pockets and also down the side of the cushions so I scraped all old glue away fro any area of play .
nothing worse than a slow ball down the cushions rolling off a blob of old glue left on the slate from a previous re-cover .
King billy bright gold yellow bed cloth on
with this bright light coloured cloth it was important not to get dirty hands on it while re-covering so I kept my hands clean at all times .
Above the bed cloth fitted . Have you got your sunglasses on ?
King billy finished table D end
the finished table , marked out with baulk and D , a new set of balls was also bought by Clarys and a pool tournament is booked for first play tonight .
King billy finished table balls et up
I also gave the internal ball rails centre ball run and also side door ball flip out tray a thorough clean out and wipe down
with a bright cloth like this the muck if left on the rails would soon destroy the good work of this re-cover .
yellow chalk has been ordered and they are useing a yellowish beige one until this arrives
Some  people do not think about same coloured chalk with a cloth as bright as this it is important that you do not use the more common blue and green chalk .
I also found it annoying that Hainsworth will sell you a bizarre colored cloth yet will not supply an appropriate colour chalk to go with it .

King billy pool balls golden 8 ball blue reds
blue and red balls with golden 8 ball .
Ordering one off colours like this Golden Hainsworth smart cloth can be around £20 to £40 above our normal price in green depending on which grade you are comparing it with .
Hainsworth cloth is expensive to order as one off cloths the postage alone is £18+ vat on top of the price of the cloth , so please take note of this if you want to order special colours .
We can also supply and fit other designer cloths such as this
Butlins hotshots artscape bud dec 2015
and this
jack daniels black cloth
or just plain one off colours
Derby county Black pool table
We also do american speed cloths which has no nap .
hunters Bar
a friend of mine also had one done in Chips printed onto the cloth for a Fish and chip Restaurant
chips speed cloth Steve

Riley Aristocrat full size snooker table …..NOW SOLD and installed at Loughborough

 

SOLD SOLS SOLD

TABLE IS NOW SOLD

ORIGINAL ADVERT BELOW .   WE HAVE PEOPLE ASKING FOR THESE TYPES OF TABLES …….RILEY ARISTOCRAT AND ALSO KARNEHM AND HILLMAN please contact GCL billiards if you have a table like this for sale .
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We have a client who wishes to sell their full size Riley aristocrat snooker table with standard cushions on GCL Billiards web site by Sealed Bids .

*** please note this table does not have the tournament steel cushions on ***
The one stumbling block is that this table is located upstairs and requires up to 4 men to get those Heavy slates down stairs safely without damage to table or stair or property
Therefore it is recommended that you use a Snooker / billiards company like GCL billiards to get this table down safely and loaded onto the Van .
there are two stair cases that lead out of this room both are tricky to maneuver slates around both having a tight turn to negotiate .
Riley Aristocrat sheffield upstairs dark mahog standard
the Standard cushioned Riley Aristocrat is in good order woodwork wise an inspection on take down will let me know if the cloth or rubber requires replacing .
or for a Fee I can go upto Barnsley / Sheffield and inspect the table for any buyer and give a full report .
if you require a quote for dismantle and delivery and set up then please ask Geoff at GCL billiards for this by email ……c.large@btinternet.com
Riley Aristocrat sheffield from other end upstairs
a photo taken from the other end showing stairs to the far end .
the slates weigh in at 200kg each so there has to be enough manpower  to lift and guide these slates down those stairs safely, and GCL billiards have the equipment to do this .
this is not a DIY task , you have to have experienced Labour and men that are used to such removals , and a Billiards fitter on site to take apart .
the table has full extensive range of accessories but it may require a re-cover if the new owner wants one we can also quote for this too .
At this moment in time we are asking for offers and will get around three in before we present these to our client to see who he is willing to sell to .
so we are going for a timed Auction for this Table , this is a first for us to do this , by one week May 3rd we shall know who the most interested three people are in buying the table and we can then start talking to complete a sale .
All Bids to c.large@btinternet.com with name address and telephone contact , if you are using GCL Billiards to move the table we shall require a post code to work out milage charge .
we will put the top three bidders contact details to the seller who will look for the best sale that suits their needs .

Rare to find modern 10ft x 5ft BCE type snooker table for sale . Sutton coldfield @ only £500

We have a client who wishes to sell their 10ft by 5ft BCE type snooker table
the table I think is a BCE copy having identical legs but the cushions and pocket plates are designed differently to a BCE original .
10ft BCE sutton coldfield 1
The table is on Ground floor with easy acess to get to a parked up van
10ft BCE sutton cold 2
my client says it will require a re-cloth but any buyer can make that choice depending on what they require it for .
they may want to get any life still left in the cloth , and just have it refitted .
10ft BCe sutton cold cush scratch
10ft tables are harder to find for buyers so when one comes up that is a modern 1980s onwards  type they tend to sell pretty quick .
there are a few belt buckle and zip scratches on the cushions , a common occurrence on any table if belt buckle or zip is sharp and protruding
the rest of the woodwork I am told is very good .just wants a bit of stain / scratch cover putting over those scratches , it is not that bad
10ft BCE sutton cold leg 5
typical BCE leg design of the 1980s , but I would think this table is from the 1990s.
I would say this table was manufactured in Manchester or Leeds as I know the type of table was made by these two firms in the 1990s.
my client is asking £500 for a hard to find modern 10ft table which has 5 section thick slate bed .
Removal and delivery and setup can be quoted to any buyer by GCL Billiards , please ask for a quote giving post code
rex 8 van outside property

For sale Brand new chinese 8 ball 9ft pool tables with steel cushions…the next Big thing in Cue sports tables to hit the UK

We have teamed up with another UK Billiards importing and retail firm to offer Brand new Chinese 8 ball tables at £2,999
the tables will be supplied by our importer retailer and you get the expertise of Geoff at GCL Billiards who has over 40 years Professional fitting experience of all types of cue ball tables .
8 ball , Chinese 8 ball table
These 9ft 8 ball tables will have Professional Standard Steel cushions
We can offer as an Extra a cloth choice of colour and also cloth upgrade choice .
also table slate heaters and High Frequency Lighting also at Extra cost upgrade can be supplied .
I am awaiting more photo’s of pocket openings and sizes at the fall .
If you are interested in one of these tables fitted by GCL billiards , please contact Geoff at GCL Billiards .
these are official chinese 8 ball 9 foot tables with 2.1/4 inch balls on very tight pocket openings and have the Steel cushions most desired by top end players .
we predict a big market for the sales of these tables as Pool is now more popular than snooker here in the UK , and upgrading from a UK 7ft pool table to this is the Ultimate in quality and professional standard pool .
With 40 years in the Billiards snooker and pool trade as an Apprentice trained to Qualified  Billiards fitter ,I have seen snooker peak in the 1980s /90s and come down and now level out as a sport here in the UK
also I have seen Pool from the very early 1970s Reni pierre and Rutigliani tables with ring pockets , transform from Hazel Grove super leagues to Supreme Winner competition tables to now the next big leap forward in the cue sports trade here in the UK is the chinese 8 ball 9ft pool table .
it will not be long before you see TV covering this game here in the UK . with many snooker and pool players turning towards this size of table .
they offer excellent value when you compare the full size Star table to one of these 8 ball tables , around £7000 to £10.000 price difference .
I think they are very competitively priced for all types of people from the grand cue sports room to the shed / log cabin or Garage games room , they are definitely priced to sell .
8 ball pocket opening 4 and quarter inch ball

Price of table in photo with Steel cushions is £2999.00p and this includes set up in clients ground floor room .
long distance may require overnight Stay in B&B .
Sales outside the UK or long distance or upstairs or basement installation please ask for a Quote .

at Email

c.large@btinternet.com

8 ball chinese steel cushion cross section photo 1
As you can see from this photo , the cushions have polished wood , then the thick steel plate ,
and then the block that the rubber is glued to which is ready to have the middle angle cut .
click on any photo to enlarge for a more close up photo.
they are a little different to normal steel cushions as used on full size star or the older burroughs and watts tables , but I think this design is better as it keeps the two parts of polished wood and steel together , this prevents the outer polished wood to bow or distort like on many older designed steel cushions , resulting in a ridge at some point between cushion cloth and polished wood surround , a common problem on many steel block Billiard and snooker tables .
these steel cushions are screwed permanently to the outer polished wood of the cushion preventing any distortion in wood surround and a good line up of join between cloth slip and wood .
the cloth slip rebate is in the capping of the polished wood and not in the block resulting from a better thicker block for the rubber to adhere to .
angles like a standard cushion at the middle and corners make for more ease of covering without any major flaws in pocket opening design .
These tables have gone through a stringent design process , resulting in the very high standard of table at an affordable price .
the above comments are Geoff Large’s own thoughts as a billiards fitter of 40 years experience , they are not copied or scripted from leaflets or book.

Client complaining of odd noise on snooker table cushion , Test ramp used to see if different bounce from cushion on the table ?

We went over to Derby to re-stretch a bed cloth on a full size Riley Aristocrat table
we have not re-covered it in the past as another sheffield firm had supplied and fitted the table ,
our job for the day was to improve the speed of the table by re-stretching of bed cloth
and to test the cushion bounce with ball ramp
and also replace the very badly fitted long chinese low cost nets with good UK manufactured nets supplied by Peredon
the nets were too long affecting the ball run on each rail and balls falling on the floor or getting stuck in the nets .
Derby Riley table substandard cloth had been fitted by BB
one of the first things we found on the re-stretch was that the firm who supplied the table had used Substandard cloth
Substandard is a term that the manufacturer uses to identify seconds or faults within a roll of cloth
they iron on a transfer every 10foot so that anyone using this cloth there will be at least one of these transfers on each bed cloth .
also claims against Strachan cannot be made on substandard cloth you are buying seconds so you have no Warranty by Strachan on the cloth
GCL billiards will not use Seconds or substandard cloth .
I was allowed to see an invoice for what the other firm had charged for the re-cover and it was £375 + vat = £450 and that was last year when I was charging  £397 and no vat to pay so perfect cloth from GCL billiards  was actually £53 lower priced if you cannot claim vat back as was the case with this client , do not forget the other firm was using sub standard cloth which can be around £60 for  bed and cushions cheaper to buy so he was actually making much more profit that way than using what we use perfect Strachan 6811 tournament cloth .
I wish to point out there is nothing wrong in using substandard cloth as along as the paying customer is informed , in this case they were not aware it was substandard cloth that they had used .
substandard can mean uneven playing surface , stop start lines , flecks in cloth or too loose or slack weave , and wrong nap length used .
i would say the previous firm made over £100 more profit than me using this substandard cloth so be aware and check what you are being quoted and inspect the cloth being fitted for substandard stamp running through the 6811 transfer .
actually be there when they put the tacks in and make sure the cloth has not been swopped over .
Derby Riley table filled in falls corners
the riley Aristocrat had filled in corner falls to competition standard falls .
Derby riley table level with cloth off
on the re-stretch we checked and adjusted the level and the slate joints where improved on ,
they were showing proud so we realigned them and surface filled and sanded in .
GCL Billiards will take their time at doing this to make sure your playing surface is good .
once satisfied they will re-stretch the cloth back on .
I also stapled cloth to the rear of each slide in cushion panel to eliminate any slide panel rattle and also checked it was not a rest rattling on the hook
these are common faults on tables with noisy cushions .
a ball hitting the cushion can cause the hooks and rest to rattle so check hooks are tight and that some hooks will have to have a large rubber sleeve over them if rst jumps up every time . by making loose sliding panels thicker with cloth behind this will stop any slide rattling.
Ball ramp cueshion and cloth speed tester 2
once the table is finished we test that all cushions are aligned correctly with pocket openings the same size on each corner and middles aligning up .
Ball ramp cushion and cloth speed tester with ball
the ball ramp holds a ball at a set height up the ramp , press down on the alloy strip to release
we measure the distance traveled down and back up the table , and we test along each cushion
Ball ramp cushbion and cloth speed tester

although there is a definite sound difference in what we call no2 cushion  or green ball cushion , it rebounds and travel distance is the same as cushions 3  / 5 & 6
and also 1&4 travel roughly the same distance only slowing slightly against nap rather than slightly faster with nap
anyone can make a ramp like this one , it does not have to be as elaborate as this one which also has  alazor guide which you can see underslung in the clear acrylic .
I do not use the laser function myself all this does is put a red dot on the back of the ball to try and keep it straight when rolling a ball down .
all you really need to test is rebound value of each cushion and compare them to each other
but try and do it after brushing and ironing , make sure all cushions bolts are tightened  up correct before you do this .
you must have some sort of ball hold at set height length up the ramp which will not move as a ball has to leave at the same distance up that ramp every time to make an accurate comparison.
riley aristocrat silver trimmed
It was obvious there is a different noise on rebound , so we have asked the client to live with it until the next re-cover in 12 to 24 months time and then decide if he wanted to carry on with it or have the cushions re-rubbered , I do not know what make of rubber is under that cloth , but going by the substandard transfer on the cloth makes you think have they used Northern Rubber or Chinese rubber on the cushions ?
once the cloth is off the cushions on a re-cover , I can then inspect the cushion rubber ,

bagworth northern rubber good

Now it appears that there is one window that lets the sun light into the room and just by coincidence the sun shines on the no 2 green cushion now heat can shorten the life of rubber , even if a cover is over the table heat can travel through and soften the rubber or make it hard depending on type and quality of rubber used .
this will result in odd noise from the other none affected cushions , and it is my view as I did feel for any loose rubber under the cloth and it is fully attached , so I think it is rubber deterioration , due to hot sunlight hitting that one cushion during the day , I have instructed my client to get a blind up on that window having eliminated any other cause , I even checked the height of the rubber agianst the other cushions , just incase it was set higher or lower and it is all the same .

Really bad Billiard table with bad cracked slat bed and odd slates in Leicestershire , but I managed to get it playable for our client

We had a job on the other week where a table had been set up and the slates banged on top of the frame by removal men
My task was to go over and level the table and fit the original bed cloth and put back together ready for play by my clients children
they did not require a re-cover due to the fact that children where going to be the main players of the 9ft table.
Melton 9ft bad slates with crack
this was how I found the table , so I started to try and level it .
Melton 9ft bad crack in slate bed
on the baulk end of the table the end slate had a diagonal crack that had been badly repaired , there was a high ridge in the slate on this crack .
Melton 9ft  bad crack in slate from edge
the repair that the last firm did from the side of the slate , not very good
Melton 9ft bad slates one thicker than the other
we also found that the slates where odd slates , one was thicker than the other , I had to pack under one slate to bring it upto the same level as the next slate then filled the joint in .
they had taken out the brass connecting dowels that are set inside each slate joint , and they had just tried to blend them in , but not to a good standard with another ridge in the slate at the joint .
Melton 9ft bad crack filled in and joints
the table has been levelled , the crack filled and blended in and also the slate joints .
Melton 9ft bad bed cloth faded and worn
if you thought the slate was bad look at the state of the bed cloth
Melton 9ft bad table finished with cushions back on
the table now finished with the cushions back on , and I must say I surprised myself that it went back together not only ok , but pretty good for level too .
the room is a children’s play area , and although the adults will play the odd game this table was for children’s use , so they did not want to go to the expense of a new cloth at this stage