Client complaining of odd noise on snooker table cushion , Test ramp used to see if different bounce from cushion on the table ?

We went over to Derby to re-stretch a bed cloth on a full size Riley Aristocrat table
we have not re-covered it in the past as another sheffield firm had supplied and fitted the table ,
our job for the day was to improve the speed of the table by re-stretching of bed cloth
and to test the cushion bounce with ball ramp
and also replace the very badly fitted long chinese low cost nets with good UK manufactured nets supplied by Peredon
the nets were too long affecting the ball run on each rail and balls falling on the floor or getting stuck in the nets .
Derby Riley table substandard cloth had been fitted by BB
one of the first things we found on the re-stretch was that the firm who supplied the table had used Substandard cloth
Substandard is a term that the manufacturer uses to identify seconds or faults within a roll of cloth
they iron on a transfer every 10foot so that anyone using this cloth there will be at least one of these transfers on each bed cloth .
also claims against Strachan cannot be made on substandard cloth you are buying seconds so you have no Warranty by Strachan on the cloth
GCL billiards will not use Seconds or substandard cloth .
I was allowed to see an invoice for what the other firm had charged for the re-cover and it was £375 + vat = £450 and that was last year when I was charging  £397 and no vat to pay so perfect cloth from GCL billiards  was actually £53 lower priced if you cannot claim vat back as was the case with this client , do not forget the other firm was using sub standard cloth which can be around £60 for  bed and cushions cheaper to buy so he was actually making much more profit that way than using what we use perfect Strachan 6811 tournament cloth .
I wish to point out there is nothing wrong in using substandard cloth as along as the paying customer is informed , in this case they were not aware it was substandard cloth that they had used .
substandard can mean uneven playing surface , stop start lines , flecks in cloth or too loose or slack weave , and wrong nap length used .
i would say the previous firm made over £100 more profit than me using this substandard cloth so be aware and check what you are being quoted and inspect the cloth being fitted for substandard stamp running through the 6811 transfer .
actually be there when they put the tacks in and make sure the cloth has not been swopped over .
Derby Riley table filled in falls corners
the riley Aristocrat had filled in corner falls to competition standard falls .
Derby riley table level with cloth off
on the re-stretch we checked and adjusted the level and the slate joints where improved on ,
they were showing proud so we realigned them and surface filled and sanded in .
GCL Billiards will take their time at doing this to make sure your playing surface is good .
once satisfied they will re-stretch the cloth back on .
I also stapled cloth to the rear of each slide in cushion panel to eliminate any slide panel rattle and also checked it was not a rest rattling on the hook
these are common faults on tables with noisy cushions .
a ball hitting the cushion can cause the hooks and rest to rattle so check hooks are tight and that some hooks will have to have a large rubber sleeve over them if rst jumps up every time . by making loose sliding panels thicker with cloth behind this will stop any slide rattling.
Ball ramp cueshion and cloth speed tester 2
once the table is finished we test that all cushions are aligned correctly with pocket openings the same size on each corner and middles aligning up .
Ball ramp cushion and cloth speed tester with ball
the ball ramp holds a ball at a set height up the ramp , press down on the alloy strip to release
we measure the distance traveled down and back up the table , and we test along each cushion
Ball ramp cushbion and cloth speed tester

although there is a definite sound difference in what we call no2 cushion  or green ball cushion , it rebounds and travel distance is the same as cushions 3  / 5 & 6
and also 1&4 travel roughly the same distance only slowing slightly against nap rather than slightly faster with nap
anyone can make a ramp like this one , it does not have to be as elaborate as this one which also has  alazor guide which you can see underslung in the clear acrylic .
I do not use the laser function myself all this does is put a red dot on the back of the ball to try and keep it straight when rolling a ball down .
all you really need to test is rebound value of each cushion and compare them to each other
but try and do it after brushing and ironing , make sure all cushions bolts are tightened  up correct before you do this .
you must have some sort of ball hold at set height length up the ramp which will not move as a ball has to leave at the same distance up that ramp every time to make an accurate comparison.
riley aristocrat silver trimmed
It was obvious there is a different noise on rebound , so we have asked the client to live with it until the next re-cover in 12 to 24 months time and then decide if he wanted to carry on with it or have the cushions re-rubbered , I do not know what make of rubber is under that cloth , but going by the substandard transfer on the cloth makes you think have they used Northern Rubber or Chinese rubber on the cushions ?
once the cloth is off the cushions on a re-cover , I can then inspect the cushion rubber ,

bagworth northern rubber good

Now it appears that there is one window that lets the sun light into the room and just by coincidence the sun shines on the no 2 green cushion now heat can shorten the life of rubber , even if a cover is over the table heat can travel through and soften the rubber or make it hard depending on type and quality of rubber used .
this will result in odd noise from the other none affected cushions , and it is my view as I did feel for any loose rubber under the cloth and it is fully attached , so I think it is rubber deterioration , due to hot sunlight hitting that one cushion during the day , I have instructed my client to get a blind up on that window having eliminated any other cause , I even checked the height of the rubber agianst the other cushions , just incase it was set higher or lower and it is all the same .

Really bad Billiard table with bad cracked slat bed and odd slates in Leicestershire , but I managed to get it playable for our client

We had a job on the other week where a table had been set up and the slates banged on top of the frame by removal men
My task was to go over and level the table and fit the original bed cloth and put back together ready for play by my clients children
they did not require a re-cover due to the fact that children where going to be the main players of the 9ft table.
Melton 9ft bad slates with crack
this was how I found the table , so I started to try and level it .
Melton 9ft bad crack in slate bed
on the baulk end of the table the end slate had a diagonal crack that had been badly repaired , there was a high ridge in the slate on this crack .
Melton 9ft  bad crack in slate from edge
the repair that the last firm did from the side of the slate , not very good
Melton 9ft bad slates one thicker than the other
we also found that the slates where odd slates , one was thicker than the other , I had to pack under one slate to bring it upto the same level as the next slate then filled the joint in .
they had taken out the brass connecting dowels that are set inside each slate joint , and they had just tried to blend them in , but not to a good standard with another ridge in the slate at the joint .
Melton 9ft bad crack filled in and joints
the table has been levelled , the crack filled and blended in and also the slate joints .
Melton 9ft bad bed cloth faded and worn
if you thought the slate was bad look at the state of the bed cloth
Melton 9ft bad table finished with cushions back on
the table now finished with the cushions back on , and I must say I surprised myself that it went back together not only ok , but pretty good for level too .
the room is a children’s play area , and although the adults will play the odd game this table was for children’s use , so they did not want to go to the expense of a new cloth at this stage

For sale Supreme 7×4 Winner pool table NOW SOLD within 24 hours of advertising .

NOW SOLD within 24 hours of advertising , Supreme winners looked after like these are always in demand

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We have a client Stapleford cue club who we do a lot of work for
they are upgrading their current stock of 4 pool tables from Black to oak finish latest edition tables
Stabbo march 2016 strip down 2
the table for sale is the black one near the bar .
Therefore releasing good quality stock of second hand 7×4 pool Supreme winner pool tables one at a time as they exchange over
this week they have just put a new table in and dismantled one of the black tables which was a match table only 2 years ago and it is now for sale at just £395
this table is a free play type table and has no coin operation at all
it is ideal for a club or any up and coming pool player for his man cave or Garage or shed or log cabin at the bottom of the Garden
winners at stabbo cue club x 4
Stapleford cue club are having a change around , not because of bad tables but to upgrade to a different colour cabinet in light oak
Stabbo march 2016 close up match table 1 plus 2
They would like to exchange all the black ash tables for oak tables in the near future ,
they have done two so far so another table will also be available in the near future if you miss out on this one
Stapleford pool clean out june 2015
All these tables have been been maintained by GCL Billiards over the years .
So you can be assured of good maintained tables and not some table that has been banged and shifted about in it’s lifetime. they still have plenty of years left in them and have also had cushion upgrades at sometime too , so no dead cushions ! like some will sell you .
This table was a Match table and used by the local pool teams in the leagues as well as a few Finals .
all the black tables have had upgraded ball runs , the old type used to spit balls out onto the tbale so you will have the latest ball runs with the table for sale
these fully grooved and allen key bolted type are the very latest used by supreme
Towers ball rails all cleaned
If you are interested in buying this Black ash table,  then contact Jed Eaton at Stapleford Cue club Stapleford Nottingham . 01159 394504 ask for Jed
let me know if it has sold as I can then take this advert down as sold .

the tbale is  NOW SOLD !

For sale full size mahogany tulip legged full size snooker table near Derby

We have a local Derby client who wishes to sell their full size snooker table for around £500
and due to a carpet change .
I dismantled this table and put it into storage for our client around 18 months ago due to my recommending an oak table to match in with his home refurbishment ,
the mahogany table did somehow not suit the oak doors and fitments of the room
I put the idea of finding a nice oak square leg to him and found one within two weeks just by chance of another client offering one for sale , a very rare Riley Viceroy .
here are a couple of photo’s of his older table which is a very nice tulip legged Victorian table .,which is the table for sale not the newer oak one .
Terry Derby table tulip mahogany 1
As you can see the lighter coloured fitments of the pastel green panelling and oak doors do not make this table look as though it belonged in the room
the room was very modern and the table is Victorian , the table does come with a scoreboard .
Terry derby tulip leg table mahogany 2
the table has a very nice flame mahogany veneer tot he side frame and is circa 1895 onwards with modern flush fitted pocket plates on a Burroughs and watts type frame
there was nothing wrong with the tbale it played ok , but once I had put the idea of an oak table into my clients mind he had to swop it over once he realised what I was recommending was better for him and his room decor.
and this is what he replaced it with , as you can see it blends into the room perfectly .
viceroy finished table light oak
I have just re-covered the Riley Viceroy oak table and he happened to mention he still had the older Mahogany table in store and would I mind advertising it for him
My client does know the current market prices for full size snooker tables is not high so is only asking around £500 for his tulip legged mahogany victorian table
buyer to collect from near Derby from ground floor storage easy access drive right up to building  , or get a quote from GCL billiards for collection delivery and installation  …. interested then please contact

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We will put you in direct contact with the selling client .

Superb Riley Imperial Full size oak snooker table at a reasonable price for great condition .

£800 for solid oak table !

We have a client who wishes to sell their full size Riley Imperial Snooker Table in solid oak for just £800 collected .
these tables are sought after for Barn conversions or for a home with plenty of oak in them or a modern or period home where Oak would blend in
there are not too many oak tables for sale most are mahogany or very dark wood by a 90% ratio to 10% oak .
this table was fully renovated around 15 to 20 years ago and is still in exceptional condition ,
I would say this table is stained and polished dark oak , but not too dark that the grain is not covered over , you can clearly see the quarter sawn oak pattern in the leg which shows good quality oak has been used .
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Riely imperial better photo
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s you can see the wood work is in very good order as seems the cloth from this photo .
the table will come with all accessories that is in the photo including scoreboard , the light does not look good enough, it is  too small !
so any buyer would have to source lighting for this table .
The table is near Swindon and is on a ground floor location , if any buyer would like a quote from GCL billiards to collect this table transport and refit in their Home or premises then ask Geoff for a quote .

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Superb John Bennett Billiard table for sale circa pre 1895 for £3500

We have a client who wishes to sell their full size renovated Snooker /Billiard table circa pre 1895 .
a John Bennett table in superb order. at £3500 .
john bennet tulip leg billiard photo taken back
professional photos reproduced with permission from photographer of the John  Bennett table
this table also comes with a full dining top which is not in the photo.
John bennet large tulip billiards table march 2016
The table comes with all accessories that is in the photo’s , the cue rack and rests
and also balls triangle and a scoreboard
You may notice it is fitted with the original Billiard type pocket bag nets and there is no hooks on the frame work which helps keep the woodwork from x rest nibble when placing back on the hooks .
By this you can be assured this table is well looked after .
The table has the Tulip leg design and has ornate scrolls between the legs
john bennet cloth level green spot photo
the cloth looks in superb order too
john bennet thin upright photo
The price for this table is £3500
if anyone is interested then please contact Geoff at GCL Billiards and he will forward you onto the seller .