Pool table recovering / reclothing in Derby clubs and pubs .

I have just completed two re-covers on winner supreme pool tables for local establishments in and around Derby
My morning stop off local to me at sawley derbyshire , a pub with an upstairs pool / poker room .
W Lion sawley strip down pool
the cloth was ready for a re-cover on this table
w lion sawley cushions tripped
Every staple is taken out , unlike some hit and run firms who just pull the old cloth off and  leave all the old staples in and cover over them
a case of what the eye cannot see , We at GCL Billiards take every staple out .
w lion sawley cushions re-covered
Cushions re-covered in Strachan 6811 pool cloth .
w lion sawley 6811 cloth stamp
the Strachan brand pronounced Strawn , and the 6811 grading is our most asked for cloth and used throughout the industry for pool tables in pubs and clubs that league pool teams play on , a 100% pure new wool cloth , and at 28 oz it is pretty fast .
some may ask for an upgrade to the full 30 oz Strachan tournament as used on full size snooker tables , but this is 30 oz grade more expensive , and at the end of the day they are both made from the same 100% pure new wool .
w lion sawley lid up recovered
slate covered and cushions refitted cabinet and rails cleaned out , almost finished , just got to attend to the leveling which is a problem on this table because the feet have been stripped of their threads and will not screw up or down , a common fault when a ball sticks the players lift the table up and bang it down to free the ball , this ball sticking is caused by muck on the rails , that is why GCL Billiards clean the inside of the tbale when re-covering we do a full service not half of one .
w lion sawley leveling
I’m afraid I had to place a few beer matts under the feet to level this table , there is a repair kit available sometimes on ebay where you drill out the hole larger , fasten a new plate to the bottom of the leg and screw the feet back on , or you can get a welder to make some plates that can be bolted onto the bottom of the legs and have a nut welded on so the legs can be screwed back on ,or simply buy new legs .
w lion sawley finished table
table is now finished , 2 springs were also put back onto the EDR coin mech and side flip out tray cleaned .
My second table in Derby was at a social club on the outskirts of the City .
littleover sc cushions stripped ready for recover
striped cushions of all staples , again I always point this out to my clients as many other firms in the area just do a hit and run job and leave all old staples in the cushions
littleover sc vac out table pocket corner
it has been a year since my last re-cover at this social club and cloth shed dust is always going to happen in and around the pocket falls
I vacuum out the dust and wash down the rails .
littleover sc cleaned out pocket and cabinet corner
Now cleaned out , balls will not stick on the rails or flip out tray located in the side of the table .
littleover sc leveling .
table is finished re-covered in strachan 6811 and has been leveled
on these type of Supreme tables , you get a different sound when a ball bounces on the hinge side of the table
the bounce is not affected , but players moan that something is wrong when they hear this sound , this sound is the hinge rattle , by placing a bit of card between the hinge you can soften this sound noise down , but there will always be a sound difference from the clamp down side to the hinge side on any table that has hinges , but especially on supreme tables .
they are clamped down on coin mech side and ends , but are hinged on the far side by a split hinge , this so that the top can be removed easy to maintain and re-cover , but this split hinge rattles more than normal fixed hinges , and that is why so many pool players moan about the noise . this is a design fault if they used clamps all the way around there would be no moaning , but hinged lids are part of this tables design . and it is the most popular table sold in the UK .

Referrals for pool and snooker table re-covering . Jezza’s table from Newark area .

We get plenty of referrals from people recommending GCL billiards
one such person who recommends us is Jules Goodyear of Newark cue club
so it was no surprise when Jezza a regular player at Newark phoned me up to book his own table in for a re-cover in Strachan 6811 Tournament 30 oz cloth
Now I have worked in jezza’s cabin before but not for Jezza as he had bought the entire Cabin and table from another Newark pool player  Dan Heath .
but this Supreme winner 7ft  table was bought by Dan just before he sold the cabin due to a house move, I had not actually seen this table before .
jezza winner table log cabin strip down
so arrived and cushions off and the strip down begins , I had not worked on this particular table in the past so gave a few hints to improving the table
jezza cushions stripped red rubber found
cushion stripped down , every staple taken out , although the cushions has supple rubber it was the old red rubber that Supreme used to use
this has a habit of going rock hard , it may start with just one cushion or part of one cushion , but this red rubber gives no warning and it could solidify next week or next year it happens that quick when it decides to harden .
Northern rubber the old stiff rubber
here is a photo showing the red rubber from another table ,as you can see I can hold it out like a stiff stick
the black rubber is new and just bends , so going forward try and make these cushions last a year then on next re-cover have brand new black rubber cushions fitted .
jezza cloth glued on bed
after stripping the cushions down I attend to the slate bed prepare the surface and get off any old glue on the playing surface area
glue to outer edge of slate and 1/2 inch on top which is under cushions to give more contact Glue down area .
then glue to underside of new cloth outer edges and pocket area’s.
the old cloth is laid over to protect the nex cloth at this glueing stage .
jezza table fully re-covered
the finished table re-covered in Strachan 6811 tournament cloth 30 oz grade .
Newark 6811 tournament cloth 30 0z on pool tbales
as can be seen we use genuine Strachan 6811 tournament cloth for what call our top clients choice .
this cloth to play well has to have a well kept brushing and ironing regime every 10 hours of use .
some club’s go for much thinner finer cloths and do not brush and iron as much as you need to when you have this slightly thicker cloth on
the reason I recommend this grade and make of cloth is because it will last and it will wear well , it is not by accident that Strachan is used by the governing body of snooker on the majority of their tournaments .
fitting thinner faster cloths , maybe good from the first cueing of a ball , but I can guarantee they will not last as long as this cloth
If you ,maintain Strachan 6811 and brush and iron every 10 hours of use as recommended by the manufacturer then this cloth gets fast as it wears in .
you cannot have thin cloths and durability , but if asked I will re-cover in Hainsworth Precision or match but this cloth is more costly and the benefits are not any better than useing 6811 tournament in my opinion , and also the players of Newark Cue clubs opinion after many years of useing this grade of cloth they would not use any other .
jezza checking and adjusting level
Jezza’s table finished re-covered and ironed and level ready for use .
the only other improvement I would recommend is to replace the older smooth ball runners inside for slotted type as bounce back onto table can occur with smooth runners .
Winner supreme old type hard smooth ball rails
older smooth ball runs tend to have bounce back up of ball dropping onto this flexible shiny surface , these will normally crack with age
winner supremem new type ball rails with allen screw and recess
a more modern ball run , the slot is extended right up to there the ball falls in , and you can see the allen key screw head where it fixes onto table .
these are the type we recommend to have fitted as an upgrade, balls tend to stay down on these ball rail runners .

Now and again I get a quality 6ft snooker table to re-cover, this one in Derby

It is no secret that most billiard fitters do not like working on small tables that are fiddly to work on , but we do have to offer this service .
these can take much longer to re-cover than a full size snooker table , and many owners of small 6 foot tables are shocked at the labour charge for these size of tables
but I am afraid we charge the same labour rate on small tables as we do full size tables when re-covering as it take just as long and maybe even longer to complete .
Only the cloth is lower priced due to less of it it to supply .
I received a phone call the other week to give an estimate to the cost of re-covering a 6ft snooker table local to me at Derby
I asked for a photo of the table to give an accurate quote and to make sure it was a 6ft table .
once I had looked at the table I noticed it was a very well made one .
6ft John Gent table derby
when I arrived it had a very large slash type cuts in the bed cloth , apparently a student staying at the house decide to do some craft work and used a stanley knife to cut card on the table unaware it was  damaging the cloth underneath .
I noticed a Badge on one end saying Elston & Hopkin Ltd Goldsmith Street , this was the firm I used to work for until it was sold in 2004 by John hopkin who is still alive and in his 90s .
I immediately recognized it was a John Gent licensed victuallers table, and I  have a photo of Burnaby hall which was a Billiard rooms in Hyson Green and John Gent tables were installed in there in the late 1890s / early 1900s .
here is that photo , click on the photo to enlarge for more detail .
john gent burnaby hall 6ft in centre of room
They are all full size Billiard tables apart from one small table in the center of the room which is an identical model of the table I am working on at Derby
it could even be the same table , I know this 6ft  table ended up in a pub in Bulwell market place and then sold on from there in the late 1980s .
John Gent was a billiard table manufacturer based in Nottingham in the 1880s onwards and had offices and billiard rooms on Broad Street , and the factory was based on Convent Street which is behind the old Palais de dance on lower Parliament Street .
John Gent passed away in the late 1920s and the firm passed over to John Elston who renamed it Elstons of Broad Street and dropped the manufacture of tables and decided to concentrate on the Billiard rooms and sales of accessories .
In 1938 Gent joined forces with another billiard hall family of Hopkin , and decided to trade from an head office Billiard rooms on Goldsmith Street , the firm was renamed Elston & Hopkin , and they had between them around 13 billiard halls and rooms .
In 1980 the premises on Goldsmith Street was demolished to make way for the new Royal concert hall and we relocated to Newark Street for office and billiard room and the workshop on Canal Street was also incorporated into Newark Street .
and by 1970s Elston and Hopkin which was by now run by John hopkin ( my old boss ) the Grandson of the original Stuart Hopkin who actually owned Burnaby billiard rooms , by the 1960’s the Elston Family  had ceased having an interest in the firm
in 1980 ,  I joined the firm from my Uncles Billiard & Snooker -Pool firm Trent valley Leisure.
I stayed until 2004 and then moved on with the new owners who just bought the name , until 2012 when I branched out on myself to form GCL Billiards , I am the last Billiards fitter trading in nottingham to have direct links with the original Elston & hopkin .
there are two others fitters who were trained at elston & hopkin ltd , one is now retired and the other is based in Nottingham and still does a bit of work locally but has other business interests and unlike myself who is totally involved with the maintenance of Billiard snooker and pool tables .
I Visit John Hopkin every Christmas , and often remind him of tables such as these when i get the opportunity to work on them again .
6ft john gent table derby 2
the table  re-covered in Strachan 6811 tournament cloth with new bag nets .
These tables are made correctly , they have cushions that are the same build quality as a full size
it also has bolts in the cushions , not low quality wood screws , the corner plates are called billiard finger top plates and have a thin strip of leather on the inside .
unlike the full leather that is on some tables , this shows this table is a very early table , made around 1890 circa .
If you look at the side frame and legs , imagine this on the end of a full size table .
those legs are full size legs , the table is made very sturdy , unlike some 6ft tables you can buy today online or at high street stores that I describe as throw away tables , this table will last for years and years .

 

WANTED 8ft period snooker / billiard table for client

We have a client based in the cotswolds that is looking for a period style antique to semi modern 8ft snooker table.
The table must be of excellent build quality and my client favors turned legs but if the right square legged period table came up he may reconsider
my client after taking advice would like a three section slate bed , six legged, with bolts to cushions into slate
No wood screwed on cushions or one piece slate bed will be considered .
The table will also have to have good flat and true slate bed , things like rubber and cloth and nets and leathers can be replaced if required .
also polish condition depending on price if high then in A1 order all around , if low than my client can fund a total restoration .
TABLES LIKE THESE WILL BE CONSIDERED
8ft antique table fluted legs
fluted leg
8ft hennig bros
above Hennig Bros tulip leg
8ft table skegness chapel johnemery
a modern 8ft table
oak 9ft viceroy cloth draped
The Riley viceroy with deep archways .
Ashbourne 9ft glued and waiting to dry rubber and cushions
not an 8ft but an older design 9ft , my client definitely requires an 8ft
paul west snooker table 9ft 2
another larger table but the design may work
oxon 9ft george wright finished
8ft in Log Cabin George wright . reeded leg .
Oxon George wright 9ft
Same 8ft George wright table showing three section slate bed
oak 9ft viceroy finished balls on
a Riley Viceroy in Honey oak .
orme 9ft set up near yarmouth from retford
another three section slate bed table

Pool table re-cover in Special order Bright golden Yellow smart cloth for King Billy Pub nottingham , also printed designer cloth info .

We have just completed a re-cover in special order Hainsworth smart Golden Yellow Pool cloth .
the table was a project work in progress for an Art Student for her studies , and was completely funded by her .
The King William IV pub is a well known real ale pub located around the Sneinton and Lower Parliament Street area close to the Nottingham Ice Arena
on Manvers Street and Eyre Street corner .
My instruction from Carys was to re-cover the pool table in a bespoke colour of gold and the nearest we could get was Hainsworth Smart Golden yellow .
This just happens to be the same colour as Nottingham Panthers Ice hockey shirts . who are located just around the corner at the NIC .
King Billy pool before during strip down Green
the pool table was a Valley pool type I think manufactured in Wales ? and of 1980s circa .
above you can see the badly faded green cloth which has a mountain of chalk dust under and one pocket opening,  and had a ridge of dust preventing a slow ball from falling in
I  Do not think this table had been recovered for years there was also a hole in the black spot area .
king billy yellow gold cloth being glued bed cloth
With the cushions off and fully stripped of cloth and staples , I cleaned the slate and made good ready for glue to be spread to slate and under part of cloth edge .
the old glue was in places interfering with a ball running into pockets and also down the side of the cushions so I scraped all old glue away fro any area of play .
nothing worse than a slow ball down the cushions rolling off a blob of old glue left on the slate from a previous re-cover .
King billy bright gold yellow bed cloth on
with this bright light coloured cloth it was important not to get dirty hands on it while re-covering so I kept my hands clean at all times .
Above the bed cloth fitted . Have you got your sunglasses on ?
King billy finished table D end
the finished table , marked out with baulk and D , a new set of balls was also bought by Clarys and a pool tournament is booked for first play tonight .
King billy finished table balls et up
I also gave the internal ball rails centre ball run and also side door ball flip out tray a thorough clean out and wipe down
with a bright cloth like this the muck if left on the rails would soon destroy the good work of this re-cover .
yellow chalk has been ordered and they are useing a yellowish beige one until this arrives
Some  people do not think about same coloured chalk with a cloth as bright as this it is important that you do not use the more common blue and green chalk .
I also found it annoying that Hainsworth will sell you a bizarre colored cloth yet will not supply an appropriate colour chalk to go with it .

King billy pool balls golden 8 ball blue reds
blue and red balls with golden 8 ball .
Ordering one off colours like this Golden Hainsworth smart cloth can be around £20 to £40 above our normal price in green depending on which grade you are comparing it with .
Hainsworth cloth is expensive to order as one off cloths the postage alone is £18+ vat on top of the price of the cloth , so please take note of this if you want to order special colours .
We can also supply and fit other designer cloths such as this
Butlins hotshots artscape bud dec 2015
and this
jack daniels black cloth
or just plain one off colours
Derby county Black pool table
We also do american speed cloths which has no nap .
hunters Bar
a friend of mine also had one done in Chips printed onto the cloth for a Fish and chip Restaurant
chips speed cloth Steve

Riley Aristocrat full size snooker table …..NOW SOLD and installed at Loughborough

 

SOLD SOLS SOLD

TABLE IS NOW SOLD

ORIGINAL ADVERT BELOW .   WE HAVE PEOPLE ASKING FOR THESE TYPES OF TABLES …….RILEY ARISTOCRAT AND ALSO KARNEHM AND HILLMAN please contact GCL billiards if you have a table like this for sale .
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We have a client who wishes to sell their full size Riley aristocrat snooker table with standard cushions on GCL Billiards web site by Sealed Bids .

*** please note this table does not have the tournament steel cushions on ***
The one stumbling block is that this table is located upstairs and requires up to 4 men to get those Heavy slates down stairs safely without damage to table or stair or property
Therefore it is recommended that you use a Snooker / billiards company like GCL billiards to get this table down safely and loaded onto the Van .
there are two stair cases that lead out of this room both are tricky to maneuver slates around both having a tight turn to negotiate .
Riley Aristocrat sheffield upstairs dark mahog standard
the Standard cushioned Riley Aristocrat is in good order woodwork wise an inspection on take down will let me know if the cloth or rubber requires replacing .
or for a Fee I can go upto Barnsley / Sheffield and inspect the table for any buyer and give a full report .
if you require a quote for dismantle and delivery and set up then please ask Geoff at GCL billiards for this by email ……c.large@btinternet.com
Riley Aristocrat sheffield from other end upstairs
a photo taken from the other end showing stairs to the far end .
the slates weigh in at 200kg each so there has to be enough manpower  to lift and guide these slates down those stairs safely, and GCL billiards have the equipment to do this .
this is not a DIY task , you have to have experienced Labour and men that are used to such removals , and a Billiards fitter on site to take apart .
the table has full extensive range of accessories but it may require a re-cover if the new owner wants one we can also quote for this too .
At this moment in time we are asking for offers and will get around three in before we present these to our client to see who he is willing to sell to .
so we are going for a timed Auction for this Table , this is a first for us to do this , by one week May 3rd we shall know who the most interested three people are in buying the table and we can then start talking to complete a sale .
All Bids to c.large@btinternet.com with name address and telephone contact , if you are using GCL Billiards to move the table we shall require a post code to work out milage charge .
we will put the top three bidders contact details to the seller who will look for the best sale that suits their needs .

Rare to find modern 10ft x 5ft BCE type snooker table for sale . Sutton coldfield @ only £500

We have a client who wishes to sell their 10ft by 5ft BCE type snooker table
the table I think is a BCE copy having identical legs but the cushions and pocket plates are designed differently to a BCE original .
10ft BCE sutton coldfield 1
The table is on Ground floor with easy acess to get to a parked up van
10ft BCE sutton cold 2
my client says it will require a re-cloth but any buyer can make that choice depending on what they require it for .
they may want to get any life still left in the cloth , and just have it refitted .
10ft BCe sutton cold cush scratch
10ft tables are harder to find for buyers so when one comes up that is a modern 1980s onwards  type they tend to sell pretty quick .
there are a few belt buckle and zip scratches on the cushions , a common occurrence on any table if belt buckle or zip is sharp and protruding
the rest of the woodwork I am told is very good .just wants a bit of stain / scratch cover putting over those scratches , it is not that bad
10ft BCE sutton cold leg 5
typical BCE leg design of the 1980s , but I would think this table is from the 1990s.
I would say this table was manufactured in Manchester or Leeds as I know the type of table was made by these two firms in the 1990s.
my client is asking £500 for a hard to find modern 10ft table which has 5 section thick slate bed .
Removal and delivery and setup can be quoted to any buyer by GCL Billiards , please ask for a quote giving post code
rex 8 van outside property

For sale Brand new chinese 8 ball 9ft pool tables with steel cushions…the next Big thing in Cue sports tables to hit the UK

We have teamed up with another UK Billiards importing and retail firm to offer Brand new Chinese 8 ball tables at £2,999
the tables will be supplied by our importer retailer and you get the expertise of Geoff at GCL Billiards who has over 40 years Professional fitting experience of all types of cue ball tables .
8 ball , Chinese 8 ball table
These 9ft 8 ball tables will have Professional Standard Steel cushions
We can offer as an Extra a cloth choice of colour and also cloth upgrade choice .
also table slate heaters and High Frequency Lighting also at Extra cost upgrade can be supplied .
I am awaiting more photo’s of pocket openings and sizes at the fall .
If you are interested in one of these tables fitted by GCL billiards , please contact Geoff at GCL Billiards .
these are official chinese 8 ball 9 foot tables with 2.1/4 inch balls on very tight pocket openings and have the Steel cushions most desired by top end players .
we predict a big market for the sales of these tables as Pool is now more popular than snooker here in the UK , and upgrading from a UK 7ft pool table to this is the Ultimate in quality and professional standard pool .
With 40 years in the Billiards snooker and pool trade as an Apprentice trained to Qualified  Billiards fitter ,I have seen snooker peak in the 1980s /90s and come down and now level out as a sport here in the UK
also I have seen Pool from the very early 1970s Reni pierre and Rutigliani tables with ring pockets , transform from Hazel Grove super leagues to Supreme Winner competition tables to now the next big leap forward in the cue sports trade here in the UK is the chinese 8 ball 9ft pool table .
it will not be long before you see TV covering this game here in the UK . with many snooker and pool players turning towards this size of table .
they offer excellent value when you compare the full size Star table to one of these 8 ball tables , around £7000 to £10.000 price difference .
I think they are very competitively priced for all types of people from the grand cue sports room to the shed / log cabin or Garage games room , they are definitely priced to sell .
8 ball pocket opening 4 and quarter inch ball

Price of table in photo with Steel cushions is £2999.00p and this includes set up in clients ground floor room .
long distance may require overnight Stay in B&B .
Sales outside the UK or long distance or upstairs or basement installation please ask for a Quote .

at Email

c.large@btinternet.com

8 ball chinese steel cushion cross section photo 1
As you can see from this photo , the cushions have polished wood , then the thick steel plate ,
and then the block that the rubber is glued to which is ready to have the middle angle cut .
click on any photo to enlarge for a more close up photo.
they are a little different to normal steel cushions as used on full size star or the older burroughs and watts tables , but I think this design is better as it keeps the two parts of polished wood and steel together , this prevents the outer polished wood to bow or distort like on many older designed steel cushions , resulting in a ridge at some point between cushion cloth and polished wood surround , a common problem on many steel block Billiard and snooker tables .
these steel cushions are screwed permanently to the outer polished wood of the cushion preventing any distortion in wood surround and a good line up of join between cloth slip and wood .
the cloth slip rebate is in the capping of the polished wood and not in the block resulting from a better thicker block for the rubber to adhere to .
angles like a standard cushion at the middle and corners make for more ease of covering without any major flaws in pocket opening design .
These tables have gone through a stringent design process , resulting in the very high standard of table at an affordable price .
the above comments are Geoff Large’s own thoughts as a billiards fitter of 40 years experience , they are not copied or scripted from leaflets or book.