Full size Burroughs and Watts Snooker table for sale in Cheshire…….OFFERS

We have a client who is keen to have removed a Burroughs and Watts full size snooker table that is situated in a basement.  The table has a life pool scoreboard included, but this is in a very sad state of disrepair.

Please study the following Photo’s of this fine old table and if you are interested I will put you in touch with the owners.

The table is in Mahogany and has medium to thin tulip legs which date from around 1880 to 1900.  The cushions date from after 1896 as they are not the older top plate design, so this table may have had an upgrade of cushion in its early life or was made to have the older thinner type Victorian tulip legs.

The life pool scoreboard has all the slide out life panels missing and the markers have also fallen off the board, but it has a ball box at the base which looks ok !

This Burroughs and Watts table has STANDARD cushions, they are not steel block.  The name plate refers to a re-rubber in a later life when the Eureka cushion rubber was used.

GCL Billiards would be happy to quote for dismantle and transportation and set up of this table, but the owners are also offering to quote for dismantle and delivery.

We would recommend that a proper professional time served billiards fitter puts the table back up, or you  you may want to go down a lower cost option of picking up the table yourself and just getting a billiards fitter in to re-erect.

Cheshire burroughs and watts FS cheshire B&Watts re-rubber plate eureka cheshire B&w tulip leg cheshire b&w old falling apart scoreboard cheshire B&W cushions ball in pocket

Stretch Bed cloth on Burroughs and Watts full size near Leicester

Today I was called back to a club that had a re-cover from GCL billiards a year ago , I reminded them that the bed cloth would now be requiring a re-tightening of the bed cloth by taking it off and re stretching back on .

so today was the day I visited them to do the work .

The tables are old Burroughs and watts and an even older George Wright .
Birstal both tbales

The table I was re-stretching was the Steel cushioned Burroughs and watts , the George Wright got a free service of Brush iron mark out and re-spot nets and leathers straps and nuts all checked while I was doing this work.
birstal steel block
you may notice small pads around the pockets resting on the legs , these are pre ball rail pads , where you had this between a bag net and the wood work to stop balls hitting the wood and to protect the ball , they are still in situ on the table and I have never taken them off in 40 years of working on this table.
they are stuffed with horse hair.
birstal b7watts pad horse hair for bag nets
here are a few more photo’s of the Burroughs and watts and George Wright  table during the re-stretching of the cloth , also some photo’s of the old life pool board and period framed rules that have hung on the walls of this club for many years .
Birstal billiard rules Birstal snooker rules Birstal snooker room rulesBirstal George wright top plate mahog Birstal george wright carved knee panel face
this George Wright has the leaf carved pattern on each knee panel , the lower design has leafs carved to look like a face , This is a typical George Wright design as is the reeded legs .

Birstal board 2 mahog BIRSTAL oak board
the boards are in a bit of a state with buttons missing off one , and they have the oak board with the mahogany table and the mahogany board with the oak table , this was done by the builders when the table’s where relocated upstairs around 20 years ago .
they where still painting the walls when we put the table upstairs so we let them fix the boards up , when we went back to do a service some months later we found they had mixed the boards up .
birstal acetone baulk line removal
When I re-stretch a bed cloth , I always use Acetone to erase the old baulk line and D , if the correct pencil is used there is no problem erasing this line , but if permanent marker or white tippex  pen is used the results may be a mess  , so always use a proper soft lead pencil for marking out and you will not have a problem when the time  to stretch a bed cloth has been reached .

birstal worn woodork rest nibble

Both table have suffered X rest nibble at the end’s of the frame work , the George Wright one is very bad , this is one reason I do not like to see Rest’s on a table after an expensive renovation of the polish to woodwork.
The rest hook’s on this table look a bit of a home made version , Those nice carved knee panels are lucky to have survived the knocking of the x rest against the woodwork when replacing back on the rest hooks .
Stretching a bed cloth prolong’s the life of the cloth , and you have less chance to cue rip a cloth on tight cloth , but on slack cloth it rips very easy , also the area of track marks around the pocket fall is moved as is the position of the spots , the ball travels faster over a tight cloth .
and the slate is cleaned of chalk dust and the table checked for level .
you can see how far it has stretched around the outside edge by looking at the bolt holes , to see how far they have moved away from the cushion bolt hole .
birstal bolt hole after stretch

 

Re-cover Winner supreme pool table in Strachan cloth in Nottingham Factory Canteen .

Another Supreme winner 7ft pool table for GCL billiards to re-cover .
This one having been on site for 3 years without a re-cover and had been used by both day and night shift on a regular basis , so it was no surprise that the cloth was well worn and had holes in it.
Gas winner old black cloth

The old black cloth is grey in places it had been used for 3 years from brand new table being installed.
Again we found that the slate had over spray around all the pockets , this had to be removed with Acetone before we started the recover , also the inside of the table under every ball run , there was a mountain of black cloth and chalk dust .

Gas winner black dust inside

We cleaned out the tale and washed the ball run’s , this will stop any ball’s sticking , something the speed fitter would never do , so make sure if you have a pool table that the firm who is doing the work , will clean out the table too , as it is probably the only time the slate will be moved to one side for maintenance . It only takes around 15 minutes to do the internal clean out and the customer can see the work has been done to a high standard.
Gas winner slate showing all pockets overspray
Again we come across the over spray of glue problem , look at the corner pockets to see Glue and old stuck on residue of black cloth , if this is not removed as some speed fitters leave it on , then you would have a problem with balls roiling off or stopping as they slow down towards the pocket fall .
Gas winner finished in green

We also as part of this service Re-tipped 4 cue’s supplied 6 chalk and a set of ball’s , we recommend that the table is recovered every 12 months at least.
If you have a Pool or Snooker table that require’s work and you want the same care and attention to detail that a fully skilled Billiards fitter is trained to do .
Then get in touch with Geoff Large at GCL Billiards on mobile 07753466064 or email c.large@btinternet.com

Re-rubber Pool table with Full size Northern Rubber in Luton

I have been asked to improve the bounce on a 6ft Pool dining table.
Luton 6ft pool re-rubber
The owner was very specific that i used top quality Full size profile Northern rubber as used on TV tournament steel block Snooker tables.
I asked if the old rubber was the full size profile of approx 7/8th L shape , and this was confirmed , but when I got there the cushions had 5/8th L shape rubber on.
Luton pool 6ft re-rubber size comp

So I informed my client I would take the blocks back to the workshop and rebate the cushion block wood to take the full size rubber on my table saw or moulding machine  , as luck would have it my Client lives just off the Luton south junction of the M1 and I would be passing again later in the week to refit his cushions .
So I re-covered the bed in 6811 Strachan cloth and stripped all staples out of the cushions ready to take the old rubber off and alter the woodwork.
Luton re-rubber 6811 green cloth
Luton re-rubber cloth on slate ready

I was going to rebate the block in two directions , downwards and backwards for the depth of the rubber , but I found that the cushions where the slotted sliding fixing type , and any backward rebate would take  all the strength out of the cushions rigidity
So the only solution was to have the cushion overhang an extra 1/8th of an inch , this would make a ball down the cushion a little harder to pot , but it was one or the other , bad rubber or good rubber with the extra 1/8th.
Luton re-rubber block end showing slot

When I measured standard Supreme Winner cushions they where 1/16th more on the over hang so in reality they are only 1/16th more than A winners overhang of cushion so nothing to worry about really , Accuracy into the pockets  will improve my clients game , and he can now benefit from more lively cushions . I did slightly open the pockets up to make up for the overhang .
I am not sure what make of table this is , it has cushions that look like Super league slotted type with 5/8th rubber rather than the fixed bolt Supreme type which has no slot in the back and has the full size rebate on .
luton re-rubber showing NR on block fitted

the cushions with Northern rubber attached ready to be cut and shaped before re-covering , I am returning these cushions on Saturday when I will be passing Luton on my way to pick up a full size snooker table to be relocated at a later date .
We are pretty busy having snooker table work coming in , and a good percentage of pool tables fitted in between to fill the gaps in .

Auction at the Willowbrook Club Gedling for full size snooker table . on 28th February 2014

Due to Castle rock Brewery buying the Willowbrook Club in Gedling nottingham  , the refurbishment of the club into a Pub will mean the snooker table is no longer required .

snooker tbale willowbrook auction
the Billiard table is an old pre 1897 circa .
If anyone is interested then they are auctioning the table off for charity , so get yourself down there for a Possible Bargain
GCL Billiards can be contacted if you win the Auction for a quote on removal , please give me information of the post code it is going to and if it is on the ground floor .
The auction is on the 28th of FEBRUARY 2014 at the willowbrook  13 main street Gedling nottingham .
but please if possible register your interest in the table by the 20th of February by contacting willowbrook@castlerockbrewery.co.uk.
willowbrook actual table
Willowbrook Club, Gedling

for further information please refer to the photo of the flyer above.

Thurston snooker table sold with in 24 hour’s of going live on GCL billiards for sale blog site.

NOW SOLD SOLD SOLD

We had a client who wished to sell for offers around £500 ONLY ! and are happy to inform it sold within hour’s of the advert going live

SOLD to Mark within hour’s of going live on this web site

arranged for dismantle and delivery from GCL billiards , a complete service from table sourced , table dismantled loaded delivered and later date when ready set up .

Thank you for Ellis and his sister Naomi who used our web site to sell their Fathers table for the  house sale and to Mark who used it to source one , this web site works for sourcing tables of all sizes , if you have one for sale or you are looking for one , place an advert for sale or wanted on GCL Billiards Blog web site and get noticed by the snooker community .
We only charge an admin fee of £25 if the table is sold to our client looking for one , and this is to cover time on web site Emailing and phone calls .

if the table is not sold we charge nothing .

REMEMBER if it is not in the shop window nobody will know it is for sale ! and GCL billiards shop window is always being looked in

Our main aim with these adverts is to  quote for the  work of dismantle and transport of table to the new owner and if acceptable carry the work of removal and set up  , this is how GCL Billiards make their profit margin’s .
We have to earn money from our service’s rather than take a commission from the  sale of the table .
You are put in direct contact with buyer and seller , you negotiate a price and we will quote you for any work you may require getting the table moved and  installed in your property by a time served Billiards fitter with 40 years experience .
Radlett thurston side shot left with rack
The table come’s with the ornate lighting and all accessories .
Radlett thurston with fancy light and rack
I know the Market is flooded with snooker tables from just 99p start price on ebay , but in my experience tables built as good as this one do not come along very often  !

The table is in a Private house and has only been subject to personal use , nice chunky turned legs , a little Mahogany wax to put a deeper sheen to the table and it will look the part in any house.  or club .

If anyone requires a quote from  GCL billiards to collect and deliver the table including set up , then please contact Geoff for details of this table and we will put you in touch with the seller and give you a price for the work for removal and set up  on production of your telephone number and post code address , please state if installation is on ground floor ?

Another Pool Table Recover for GCL billiards in Derbyshire / Nottinghamshire

We have just finished a pool table re-cover and re-rubber near Pinxton just on the border of Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire .
The table was situated in a large conservatory , and when we dismantled it , we found that the rubber was rock hard in the cushions .
28 junction rubber cracking  hard
The rubber removed showing it was falling apart and cracking , the ball would not rebound off this so a re-rubber was the recommended route to take .
the table was around 12 years old so it was due new rubber . This red rubber has a tendency to start going hard after only a couple of years use from new , we always use Black rubber to renew the old red rubber .
28 junction cloth glued and slate
New 6811 Strachan cloth having had glue hand spread on under side of outside edge of cloth and the edge of the slate .
28 junction finished
The finished table .
28 junction cover on
A nice new Peradon Branded cover to stop the sun bleaching the Olive Green cloth in this conservatory
28 junction engraved aramith balls
Our client chose a brand new set of Premier Engraved spots and striped balls by Aramith , these are not like the printed type you see on ebay at very low cost , they are the best you can buy  for spots and stripes . look at the above photo to see the difference between a low cost and the Aramith balls , click on photo to enlarge .
Our client asked for a D to be put on this table , most do not ask for this .

Retirement complex supreme Winner 6ft pool table re-cover in 6811 Strachan cloth in Derbyshire

We have been very busy in the Derbyshire area where we are well known for our Excellent work on re-covering Pool tables .
Ripley 6ft winner
T
able above before cloth removal , the colour is Camel ! or Fawn or beige as some may call it .

We may be time served Billiards fitters and better known for recovering full size snooker tables , but we do not look down on Pool tables as an inferior cue sports .
in fact we know there are many Pool tables within our area that require a top class re-cover and even some that have dead rubber on .

one thing you can be sure of is a first class job to customer satisfaction on any type of cue sports table .

The table today was a winner supreme home play 6ft , this was situated in a Retirement complex and used by the local community .
the table was the latest model that supreme released with solid metal chrome corners and was in excellent condition .
The cloth that was on the table was a lower quality Camel coloured cloth almost Beige in colour , unlike the Quality Strachan 6811 in green that we replaced it with .
Again we came across the problem of manufacturers over spray of Glue on the slate , this is getting a real problem , and i will have to have a friendly chat to the table manufacturer as to the over spray being a problem on recovering .
ripley winner glue on slate overspray
Over spray of glue on slate at corner pocket
Ripley winner glue washed off acetone
We wash the over spray glue off with acetone , photo above of this being done .
ripley winner finished
The finished table in olive Green 6811 Strachan cloth .
our clients where delighted with the thorough clean up of the slate and insides of the table , we checked the level , and supplied Balls -triangle – Brush & chalk .