10ft Karnehm and Hillman snooker table NOW SOLD !

NOW SOLD ! Buying client arranging Delivery in the New year .

if you have a 10ft tables for sale then advertise it on GCL billiards web site , it makes sense , a proven track record of tables that have sold using our free to list private advert , we only charge £25 if we successfully link you to  a buyer who buys the table .
we then hope the buyer uses GCL billiards services to remove the table and transport it to their home .
Look at our other sales we have another 10ft table for sale finished in light oak with excellent cloth .

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Original advert  ( TABLE IS NOW SOLD )

We have a client who lives in Leighton buzzard who wishes to sell their much cherished Karnehm and Hillman snooker table
Being the much sought after 10ft version , this table will go into a room where a full size would not allow enough cue room .
this table comes with a full range of accessories including light and iron .
10ft karnehm and hillman tulip leg side
As can be seen from this side view of the table ,the legs are of the Tulip carved type , and the table is styled on older version of billiard table with buttons hiding the cushion bolts rather than a slide in panel ,
which I think is a very good feature .
also between the legs there is a little scroll work and reeding design in the side frame and lower edge to cushion .
10ft Karnehm and hillman tulip full table
the woodwork in these photo’s looks to be in excellent condition , the table having only home use from new ?
In this photo you can see more clearly the carved tulip leg design , this table design is called the Buckingham Model .
10ft karnehm and hillman cloth condition
From this photo the cloth looks a little faded , so we recommend a full re-cover when the table is relocated ,  just ask Geoff for a quote for this ..
the table can be inspected on site and the table is still up to try out .
We do have a buying client who has shown interest in the table and he will be arranging a visit next week to view the table
Tables like this do not come onto the market often , but when they do they often sell quick .
If you require a quote to pick this table up transport and re-erect in your location , then please get in touch with Geoff at GCL Billiards for a quote
phone 07753466064 or email c.large@btinternet.com .
If this table is not correct wood colour then look also at the 10ft oak table that is up for sale on GCL Billiards private sellers for sale section .
all tables listed are private sales with no middle men fees or commission , the price you agree with the owners is up to you to sort out , then just get GCL billiards to move the table for you .

Pool Table re-cover this week in Newark and Derbyshire

Just a couple of pool tables that I did this week , that I have carried out between some snooker table work and re-cover’s
Supreme 6ft school recover finished
the first pool table was in my home town of Long Eaton at a well known private school , this one is in one of the residence houses and is a  6ft supreme Winner 1st edition recover in Green 777 Strachan cloth .
newark blue pool side level
And this old 7×4 table which I think is an old Lyme Grove table made in wales , the owner had taken all the trim off this table and sprayed it satin white , and with that Blue 777 Strachan cloth it is looking superb
My client had built a large garden sectional building at the bottom of his Garden in Newark , with giant screen projection TV and video games , and the place was very warm with just one oil filled radiator left on and a back up fan booster heater if required .
newark shed blue pool level
As always on my re-cover , I check and adjust for level , note my converted Mercedes jack that I use to lift the table up to allow adjustment of screw down feet .
I also fitted a new set of rubber corner pockets to this table .
and because it was a white table I also marked the baulk line out in white and used a white spot for the racking up of the balls .
who would believe this table is 30 years old ?

Open up corner pockets on full size snooker table in Blackburn

Today I have been up to Blackburn to do a variety of improvements on a full size snooker table in a private house.  The main work was to open up the pocket openings which where close to 3.3/8ths at the fall, and to make them 3.5/8th at the fall to template angle.  Here are a few photo’s of how I went about completing this work and other improvements on this table.
Blackburn cloth turned back on each corner
The first thing I did was to remove the cushions and strip back the cloth at each corner pocket, then refit to see the actual size of the openings without cloth over top of the rubber .
Blackburn template too big for pocket opening
As you can see from above photo, the template is not fitting into the pocket openings as they are too tight.  Professionals play on 3.5 inch openings, most clubs play on 3.5/8th to 3.3/4 openings.  These were too small at 3.3/8th opening.
Blackburn pen line on pocket rubber before cut
Pen marking the rubber using the template as a guide, we are ready to start cutting a new angle more suited for a home play table, as the owner was having problems getting a ball to fall on 3.3/8th pocket openings.
Blackburn cutting rubber opening pockets up
Cutting the rubber with a very sharp knife to just inside of the pen line, we then finish off the cut by sanding back so that the pen line just disappears .
Blackburn template in corner fitted snug
Where once the template did not fit, we have opened the pockets up so that the template fits nice and snug.  The pockets are now 3.5/8th at the fall of the slate.
Blackburn Riley bracket with bolt new
This table has adjustable slate supports in the centre of the table, we call these slate supports muntins.
I do not know why ?  but the firm that installed the table had left two brackets off, so our client’s father made two new ones, and the other four brackets had the adjustable bolt missing so the centre muntins did not support the centre of the slate.  It is important that the slates are supported along the middle of the table, if not you get what is known as slate sagging.  This will mean a ball played down each side rolling inwards from each side, and this can only be rectified by lifting and supporting the slate in the centre of the table .  So with two new replacement brackets and 6 new bolts we have rectified this problem.
Blackburn all brackets now working with bolts
A view along the underside of the frame showing three of the adjustable brackets supporting the muntins (centre slate support beams). A simple yet effective way of supporting the slate allowing for adjustment.
Note the leg looks like it is off the floor, this because the firm that fitted the table used round shims under square legs.
Blackburn packed slate with window shims
You may remember I did a write up about this table a few weeks back, showing packing that had been inserted and also a problem with slate falls not being the correct shape (see above photo).  Those packers are double glazing shims for aligning UPVC windows to the outer brick opening!  It was obvious that the client would spot this and ask for a second opinion, and then the other problems became apparent.

The client informed me that the seller of the table had replaced the slate for much better ones with good slate fall shape, and had made good the packing by removing it and getting the table much more level.

I was bought in to finish off the job to a higher standard, and this I achieved, by making it possible for the client to make shots into the corners that he is more confident in potting and not to get frustrated at too tight a pocket to aim for.  Also to make sure the table was level and would stay level by making sure the adjustable muntin brackets worked and the two missing ones replaced.  Finally to remove the round packing shims under the legs that made it look like the leg was off the floor and put square custom, made on site, shims to fit perfect.  This took me 15 minutes with a mitre saw and a piece of scrap plywood. All my client has to do now is to stain the edge of these square shims to match the frame colour mahogany, and finally play on the table  making some good high breaks.
Blackburn finished with templates in
As you can now see the templates including the middles now fit perfect
Blackburn jeremy finished table
The finished table set up ready to play.  I am sure our client and his Father-in-Law who kept me supplied with tea all day will have many a happy hour spent on this table now it is playing correct.

I also took the nets up one loop as the client was complaining of balls getting stuck in  sagging nets.  By taking up one loop the net sag disappeared.  I also wrapped each end of the net around the wire loop screw rather than tacking it!

The pocket plates were also loose and screws had been stuck into the lug holes to try and lift them up and stop them rattling.  A simple thin strip cloth packing inserted into the twin lug holes was all it required to make the two pin pocket plates fit tight and not sag down.

Next month I am opening up another full size snooker table’s pocket openings to 3.3/4 inch.  This is because that client is now a qualified development coach.  He has sought advice from other coaches and they recommend larger pockets for young people who are new to the game. By having 3.3/4 inch pockets they will gain confidence and mature into good players who will then go on to play on tables with tighter pockets with that confidence.  Otherwise they may just give up because they have not gained that confidence and experience of potting balls and making breaks.

This makes sense to me, but some good players frown upon it.  What they do not realise is confidence is the main thing to build on, the skill factor comes next.

I often tell them a story about a young teenager I knew back in the 1980’s playing in a club in Sutton in Ashfield in Nottinghamshire.  He was playing on pockets that were close to 4 inches!  I made a remark to him, “you will not make it as a pro playing on pockets that large”.  That young man was Gary Wilkinson.  He was once ranked 5th in the world!

Fantatstic looking Oak 10ft snooker Table for sale , in almost mint condition , be quick for Christmas Install ! … NOW SOLD !

SOLD    6th/DEC /2014

NOW SOLD   NOW SOLD

We have Private selling client who wishes to move on there 10 foot Snooker table in light Oak .
The table has multi carved tulip leg design with scroll work , and reeded panelling .
10 ft tables are hard to fine , and one in oak even harder to locate .
Finding one in this condition is like finding the holy grail.
Oak 10ft Geoff end shot
As you can see from this photo this oak table looks in mint condition , I have been told there is the od belt buckle mark in the cushions so not 100% mint but almost there !
oak 10ft geoff leg detail
as you can see from this leg photo , the leg is multi carved tulip design , with reeded leg knee panel , the reed design is duplicated in the side frame and vertical in the top cushion ,
I know this maker very well and the slide in panels should be reversible in the cushions if you want a plain look .
oak 10ft geoff side with accesories
With the table you get a dust cover and all cues and accessories plus brush and a napper block , the only accessory that I would add is a proper Billiard table iron .
oak 10ft geoff scorebaord
Matching oak scoreboard , 4 hander .
oak 10ft geoff shade lighting
and to complete the deal there is a nice Brass four shade lighting
This table is located in Cheshire just up the M6 from Stoke , the owner just happens to be also named Geoff
and I can put you in touch with him to thrash out a deal or any offer you may want to make .
The price for the table as it stands without any pick up and transport is £1250 , this table was close to £3500 with all accessories and delivered and fitted only 4 years ago .
If any one requires a quote for pick up transport and deliver and set back up , please contact Geoff Large on 07753466064 or email me at c.large@btinternet.com
Also contact me if you are interested in the table and I will forward your details onto the seller and also give you his details .
10 ft tables are the best option for many people who just have not got enough room for a full size and this 10ft gives you the next best option if you have a room size of 20ft by 15ft .
A full; size snooker table requires 22ft by 16ft .
We have a few days left before Christmas , if you are quick to purchase this table we can arrange for delivery at extra cost before Christmas .
Just think you could be playing Snooker on your own table this Christmas with the Family and friends .
santas full sack
I don’t think Santa can fit a 10ft snooker table in his sack , but GCL Billiards can get it in their van
rex 8 van outside property

Replace standard Snooker cushions with steel block cushions on this Oak Riley Square leg in Derby

The majority of Snooker / Billiard tables were made in Mahogany, so finding second hand cushions in oak is not an easy thing to do, finding them with steel cushions is almost impossible.  But I managed to track a set down for my second cousin and old school friend Mick Kirkham.

Last Christmas I installed a snooker table that Mick had bought many years previously from Anthony Hamilton, the snooker player from Nottingham, and had it installed in an outside barn.  This time he was having it put in a new extension basement purposely built for the table. Mick and his Brother totally stripped and renovated all the wood work on the frame and the standard Riley cushions, before I re-rubbered them and erected the table.

Here are a few photo’s of that install last year. Before I show the upgrade to Burroughs and Watts period steel cushions circa 1895.
slate in basement lowering in
Mick used a crane to load the slates into  the basement before he capped a floor over the basement
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When first installed Mick had the original set of Riley cushions on.  He had heard of steel block cushions and he said if I ever came across a period set of steel cushions with oak surround he would upgrade to these.
Above photo: the table when finished in December 2013.
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Again a photo of his original Riley oak cushions in December 2013 when I put new Northern rubber onto them and cut the pockets for this Riley table .
Kirkham cushion son before recover of steels
11 months later November 2014 , and above you see the same table but this time I have just fitted the steel cushions and had re-rubbered these cushions and re-cut the pocket openings and  angles to Professional template size.
The above photo shows the cushions after this successful operation.  I call this the dry run fitment to make sure everything aligns up.  It is always best to re-rubber on the table the cushions are going on and not to guestimate the pocket openings on a work bench.
You will see we are protecting the bed cloth with sheets of cardboard during this fitting process.
kirkham corner template uncovered steels in position
This next photo shows the replacement second hand steel cushions on the table with the template fitted snug within the jaws of the pocket opening.
Note the thickness of the steel plate, on this early prototype steel set the plate is 1/2 inch thick, on late steels they are 3/8th thick.  Also the end of the steels is angled on early sets and straight on later sets as the next two photos will show.
There are not many early 1/2 inch thick sets of steel cushions around so an even rarer find with this set.
Kirkham early type angle steel ends
In this photo my finger is pointing to the angle of the steel plate where it meets the end tack wood block.   These end blocks are very difficult to make as you have to work to angles and rebates to make them.
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As you cans see from this later edition steel cushion the angle is now not here and the steel is longer to almost come to the end before the end tack block is seen.  You can also get other variations of steels with compound angles where the actual steel is also bevelled at the ends, this is how the modern steel block cushion you see on star tables today have evolved.  Burroughs and Watts were experimenting as they went along in production, so it is easy to spot an early type built around the time they first used steels in the year 1895/6.
Early type had thicker steel and angles on the end.
Kirkham shavings with slips on table
I add this photo to show my fitting friends in Canada that you actually shave slips of wood down to trap the cushion cloth into the back routed out slot in the steel cushion and not use spray on glue contact adhesive
Kirkham slip in back of steels
This photo shows the planed down slip inserted by tapping in with a flat thin plate into the rear of the steel cushion, that is what the slot on the rear of steel cushions is for.
Note the Strachan 6811 tournament cloth, this is what we recommend for good quality play and good life span. 100% pure new wool no man made fibre mix with this cloth, as Tina Turner sang, it’s simply the best !
Kirkham corner steels template in
Kirkham centre steels template in
The above two photo’s show the cushions fitted tot he Riley table, and with the templates in position fitting snug.  We also fitted a new set of Peradon leathers and best quality nets.
When mick tried to strip the cushions of the oak Steel surrounds, they would not stain up light oak, this was down to the age of the oak and the stains it had taken before not coming out, so he stained it a honey oak and also re-stained the frame to match.
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As you can see the table in 2013 with standard cushions and the table in 2014 with steel cushions fitted
Kirkham old cushions stacked up
This leaves Mick with a problem with what to do with a fantastic condition set of Riley oak cushions that will fit a Riley table with welsh slate and 5 bolt holes on the side cushions.  I have instructed him to put them up for sale on my web site for £350 the set.
They come with new Northern rubber fitted in December 2013 at a cost of £325, all the wood work repaired some with new bottom mouldings, sealed and finished and come complete with the original pocket plates and nets and leathers.
Anyone who has an old oak Riley table with knackered cushions that require a re-rubber and also broken wood work, then look no further. These cushions would be a much better buy than having your old cushions re-rubbered and the wood renovated.
Kirkham set of old riley cushions and pocket plates

They come with all slide in panels and an end Riley name plate period to the table, and the cushion cloth has not had more than 40 games played on it.

I will be advertising this set of cushions for sale in the for sale section of our web site so if you are interested in them please phone Geoff on 07753466064 , it will be cash on collection from Ockbrook near Derby.

Very Nice 9ft Buroughs and watts Tulip legged table for sale circa pre 1895 …… Location of Table is Norwich , Deposit taken 11/01/2015 so almost sold ?

 

SOLD SOLD SOLD this table is now sold

Latest update on this table !

*******Deposit taken on this table so almost sold . 11th January 2015.

TABLE LOCATED IN NORWICH  NR2 Area .

We have the much desired 9ft sized billiards table for sale by a Private selling client .
this table was bought from Sir William Bentley Billiards and cost in the region of £8000 , and they have a receipt to prove this .
the table will come with a custom made set of dining tops in polished wood that compliments the polishing of the period Billiard table .
please study the following photo’s

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the table as you can see is sporting a rich Burgundy coloured cloth and comes with all the accessories that you see in the photographs plus the Scoreboard

if you are interested in the table , I will pass on your details to our client and also give you the contact details to get in touch
the table is a private sale direct from the seller so no middle man fees or commission to pay .
The 9ft billiard table is priced at £1500 complete with the table top sections .
if you require a quote for removal plus transport and set back up , then please contact Geoff at GCL billiards for a quote

Contact Email address is      c.large@btinternet.com          or phone 07753466064

please supply your post code details and if on ground floor and solid ground to take slates over from van if rough or grass we may ask you to provide some boards
a much desired size a 9ft will fit in most large households and converted Garages , where a 12ft full size may be just that too much of a tight squeeze.
this period table was manufactured when Queen Victoria was on the throne so you are also buying an antique that is over 100 years old .

Be quick if you want it Transporting and fitting in for Christmas as we are quickly running out of days left for work booked in , we have around 6 days left free before Christmas  !

We only have 6 to 8 working days left spare before christmas ! Book us now if you require work on snooker or pool tables before the 23rd of December

We are very busy at the moment , we have work all over the place to complete , and we only have around 8 days in total left to fully book us up for end of November and December .
so phone us if you require work before Christmas .
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some of this work is local to us and we are in Derbyshire for the rest of this week , next week we have a re–cover in Northampton and then we have 2 days left last week of  November to fill in .
We start December off with a weeks work in Lincolnshire , and then work in West Bridgeford /  Belper / Leicstershire / Derbyshire / and Burton on trent .
We have from the 16th of December up to the 23rd free , so if you require work on your cue sports table before Christmas , please book us now to fill these last few days in .
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we have a mixture of snooker and pool table work in at the moment plus we also have our own tables to maintain in the pool table rental side of our business .
hulland ward corner template
We take our time and make sure the work is done correctly , we never rush and try and get as much work done in a week as possible , our work is skilled and requires time we are not on bonus for the amount we can do in a day .
and our clients are more appreciative of our work that they re-book us for future maintenance .
Sam k steel set up slates being placed on leveling pads
With over 39 years of working in the cue sports trade as a time served Billiards fitter , Geoff has worked on just about every cue sports table manufactured and sold within the UK .
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Last Coin op winner in Black Pearl available before Christmas and new year ! Now sited on Rental Contract in Matlock Derbyshire .

I had an enquiry for a Rental pool table last Friday , so I phoned up the supreme Factory in Heywood  to order a table for this new site
I was shocked when I found out that no Supreme winners where available until after the new year .
I suspect this is down to Christmas orders for free play winners for Home use and Christmas presents , once they set their table manufacturing machines up for home use tables you have to wait for the target volume of free play tables to be reached before they reset back up for coin op tables , then there is the colour of cabinet change overs too so if you wanted one in Black and they are on a white run you have to wait until that target order of white  is finished  .
Add to this around 8 cabinet finishes and colour ranges and you may be waiting some time for an order you have put in , and I haven’t mentioned 6ft and 7ft version change overs .
so popular is this make and style of pool table they are working at full capacity and cannot keep up with demand , you have to be really lucky that you drop an order in at the right time to get the colour and coin op version we require .
Lucky for me I had another supplier/ Supreme stockist who just by chance had stock piled a couple of Coin operated tables and they kindly let me have one in the Black pearl finish that we and players favour. .
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GCL billiards latest rental site near Matlock in Derbyshire , a brand new Winner supreme probably the last one available in the UK before Christmas , all others in production at this moment in time have already been spoken for up until the New year !
last winner in black pearl matlock
The owner of this establishment was very grateful for us pulling out all the stops to locate a table for him .
I am going to invest in having a couple in stock all the time for my rental business , as the demand is outstripping supply .
I have people phoning me up asking if I can get them one , but I am afraid I only had one lucky chance at getting this one in .
GCL Billiards is expanding every month in the Rental pool table business , we are getting a very nice sizable round of pool table sites from Coventry to Matlock
but the majority of our rental sites are in Nottingham and Derby area .
if you are looking for a pool, table for hire , then give Geoff a ring on 07753466064 , we cannot guarantee a table before Christmas but we should be getting a couple in for January .