Your no 1 choice for pool table recovers is GCL billiards in Nottingham Derby and Lincoln Leicester plus Northampton

We cover a wide area for pool table recovering in the Midlands
We are well known for being very thorough and not just recovering and out the door quick .
We take our time and clean the internals of the table , also taking out every staple in the cushions
We do not staple over staples , or use low cost quick to use spray on Glue
We find using the comb spreader is the best way to glue contact adhesive to the slate and the under part of the cloth , it bonds very well and will not come loose.
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Our feedback from this table was very good in fact we do not get bad feedback as we like to do all our work right in front of the client so they can see what a thorough job we do cutting NO corners .
Towers ball rails process of being cleaned
we clean out the table and also wipe down the ball rails and internal slope
Towers re-covering of slate beds
we have our own method of glueing cloth to slate bed which we know is the best way  ,
none of our glue is anywhere near the playing surface so the ball will not roll off on glue applied on top of the slate
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when we strip the cushions of old cloth we take every staple out
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we would never leave your table with muck on the ball rails for balls to stick to , and that muck also gets transferred by the ball to your new cloth
leaving a table like this is bad news for the owner , speed fitters who charge slightly less and try and pull more work into a day by doing very little to each table do this .
coop north glue spray on by supreme on slate
a typical problem we find on spray on glue cloths is overspray onto slate , a slow ball towards this middle pocket will suddenly stop or change direction
rip before showing very slack cloth rucking
we get our cloth on tight , unlike this freshly recovered bed cloth that was put on by another firm
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we also level to a high degree of accuracy , but sometimes we do come across bowed or twisted slate beds or body of table ,
we do try and sort this out for you and have a good track record of improving the leveling of the table .
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From large clubs
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to family owned tables
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We even do American pool tables
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and full size snooker tables
if you want your table recovering in good quality cloth by a time served billiards fitter then contact Geoff at GCL billiards
We have many recommendations of approval

For sale Karnehm and Hillamn 10ft snooker table fully stripped and refurbished and choice of colour of polish . And cloth choice !

We have a trade seller who refurbishes tables in the North of the UK , totally re stripping them and you can have a choice of colour shade of the woodwork .
GCL Billiards have allowed this trader to use their web site to further their coverage of the sale for this table and maybe a few more full size tables will also be advertised such as BCE steel Block Westbury and Riley Aristocrat steel block tables and normal cushioned Riley Aristocrats .
If you are located closer to GCL billiards than the trader , then you may ask the seller for Geoff at GCL billiards to install the table for you .
these tables that this trader is renovating are for people who wish a more tailored bespoke service of a fully refurbished table rather than to  buy second hand and take the table as is .
So therefore the price of the table will reflect the time and materials gone into the refurbishment , it is not the lowest cost option to buy a table like this when second hand ones can be bought but 10fts are much harder to locate and these K&H tables are rated Highly because they used the best materials to build them  , you are really buying a new table when they are refurbished like this .

This 10ft Karnehm and Hillman table is made from top quality Brazilian Mahogany not Philippine mahogany lookalike wood , and also has hand floated slates ,and adjustable muntins to prevent slate sag is also being put into the build of this refurbishment
Take a look at the photo’s of this Buckingham tulip model legged table .
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The legs being hand stripped

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End panel and legs stripped and put back together to show the clean wood before stain choice

Chris cushions stripped kh 3

All the cushions and buttons stripped and ready for stain

the table will look like this one below but will be Brand new totally re polished with new ball and accessories with brand new cloth choice of Hainsworth or Strachan  branding, and you have a choice of stain colour.
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Also new Northern rubber
the cost of this table will be as a new table of this Quality should cost when leaving the Factory at £3000
Fitting and delivery to be priced accordingly .
please do not confuse the Quality of these UK made Karnehm and hillman tables with low cost brand new tables being sold on Ebay for around half the price ,
these Ebay sellers will trick you into thinking their tables are UK made out of Quality wood when in fact they are imported from China and India .
like this OAK Chinese table below , this was supplied by a UK firm and they told the buyer it was UK made , when in fact it is low quality wood made in either china or India.
GCL Billiards will always inform you of the type of table you are buying in our private sellers adverts , our reputation is always at risk if we give the wrong information out so you can be assured this K&H 10ft is the real thing a proper UK made table made from high quality wood .
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Above,  bad quality oak 10ft Chinese table at half the price of the K&Hillman. the Chinese table  looks good but plays awful .
Below The added benefit of adjustable muntin Brackets will ensure the slates remain flat and true
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Adjustable muntins K&hillman
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For contact details of this seller please contact Geoff at     c.large@btinternet.com      and we will pass on your inquiry .
A choice of lighting at extra charge could also be arranged from standard twin tube High frequency lighting to the Brass reproduction electric gas lamp .
Chris lighting fancy brass

oak 9ft viceroy fitted new GCL lighting by dextra
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Advertising Costs for GCL billiards through sponsorship or Google or Yell , we aim to reduce our outgoings to save on increasing prices .

We feel some advertising performances are just paper down the toilet

Due to feedback from Customers we have decided to cut back our outlay of advertising through Yell from next year .
we find this the most expensive yet the least productive avenue of contact for GCL Billiards from our feedback when we questioned our customers of where they found us
Most say through Google direct to web site and a good percentage of returning customer , but also a large amount from referrals from our regular clients .
I have been monitoring our performance this last month and we have had just one enquiry through Yell .


we do not have money to burn on advertising that does not perform for us .
the one yell enquiry we got last month was at 12 o’clock one Sunday evening for a table to be booked to play on , WE ARE NOT A SNOOKER CLUB !
So we are taking steps to cut back our advertising with Yell to the one free local Nottingham listing , this will become effective from August 2016 when our current contract with Yell expires . until then we will still be advertising in Derby and Lincoln areas .
PLEASE search for us on Google you will find many references to us on there with direct contact to our web site without going through a third party advertising agencies web Business Listings  , we are one click nearer going through Google rather than through Yell
and if you are looking for a firm that works on maintaining Cue sports tables such as snooker and pool table re-covering , you will not have to troll through a cue maker or various snooker club listings all piled under one section to find us .
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We like to offer sponsorship to the local leagues so we do support both Derbyshire Institutes league  and Nottinghamshire snooker leagues NBSA through advertising in booklets and donating the odd trophy .
by doing this we are also recommended to all the snooker clubs that are in those leagues .
we find this direct contact with our local clients much more rewarding than advertising on third party search engines .

I am not saying Yell does not perform for other advertisers , it just does not perform for us . we find our listings is lost in an area covering other types of businesses and not direct to what we do or what people are searching for when looking for re-covering or table moves . or being replaced as a top listing because they offer a silver gold listing payment for the higher system , just a way of getting people to pay more to be listed higher , we are established so we do not need to do this anymore and good feedback and recommendations are a better way of feeling we are the firm for you rather than sponsorship to Yell for 2nd or 1st placement .

we also find that saying how long a Firm  has been advertising is not always the best way to rate them , we for example have only been advertising with Yell for 4 years but someone who has been with them for 15 years because of the large logo stating this makes them look a much better organisation even though I have been personally fitting snooker and pool tables for 40 years .
So as from next year the best way to find us is through Google or direct if you know we exist by googling direct by name of GCL billiards , just type snooker recovers nottingham when you are looking , or your Home town plus recovers snooker  / pool ,
we do come up on google on the first or second page listings,  if not maybe the third page if we have not done work in your area recently or in the past .
If your area or town is mentioned on just one post in our web site we should come up on Google .
this is not down to paying smart people doing things to keep us there , it is based on the number of people who are searching for Snooker or pool table recovers and clicking on our web site when it comes up we do not pay to enhance our hits on our web site it is down to clients looking for us .
They have either heard of us through another person or have stumbled upon us because we have done work in their area and we have mentioned that on our reports on the web site .
Google is a powerful advertising tool and the best thing is it’s FREE .

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Full size George Wright looks really good condition from photo’s large bulbous legs fluted circa 1920s, in West sussex

 

Private sale direct from the owner

Here we have a very nice large legged mahogany George Wright , a sought after maker in the art of billiard table manufacture .
The table is located in West sussex .
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Cloth condition looks very good .
George wright leg close up lucie
this brighter photo shows the leg in nits full glory , slide in concealed knee panels hide the frame bolts
and the large turned  leg which was turned from a 10 inch block of wood has flutes carved into the leg
Flame veneer to side frame by the looks of it too .
George Wright lucie iron balls brush triangle
the table comes fully equipped with the most important piece of maintance kit that you require the IRON
one ball looks faded in this photo so expect to buy a new set of balls if you are fussy
Brush , triangle , billiard ball set , box of chalk and all rests are with the table .
George Wright sussex cloth plus leg lucie
close up of cloth shows no track marks int he corner pockets which means the cloth has seen very little use , but a close inspection will be required to be fully sure .
We are awaiting the price on this top of the range period full size  billiards table .
but offers can be made now !

contact                c.large@btinternet.com

for details

SOLD SOLD SOLD …..Very nice Oak Birmingham billiards full size snooker table for sale in Lincolnshire. £500 Bargain .

Now SOLD to a person living in the Spalding area and booked in for removable and fitting  before Christmas just in time before we where fully booked out .

 

We have a client who wishes to sell there very nice condition Light Oak Full size Birmingham billiards snooker table
please have a look at the following photo’s , this table would look great in a modern building or even a period one
it is finished in the much desirable light Oak , which is all solid oak wood ( No Veneer here )
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The table has very attractive turned legs with archways between .
Birm bill oak lincs end shot
the slide in cushion panels have flutes in them , the table comes with all rests and hooks that you can see on the table , a cover , Scoreboard , lighting , balls and cues .
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just look at the solid light oak finish , this table would have cost around £4000 when new and that was only 7 years ago
It will require anew re-cover which can be done on dismantle and set up
The price for this table is just £500 for a very quick sale .
GCL van outrside warickshire home sept 2015
If you would like a quote for the dismantle load and delivery and unload and assemble ( Hopefully on Ground floor ) then please get in touch with Geoff at GCL billiards for a quote .
this table is based in Lincolnshire so would be an ideal buy for anyone in Lincolnshire / Nottingham / Derby as these area’s are easier for us , but if you live further afield then that is no problem
We have days still to spare for delivery and installation  before Christmas if you wanted to get this table organised for your Christmas Present to yourself or Loved one.

Payloads for 3500 vans , Moving snooker and pool tables we have the correct Vehicle for this within the Law .

We are getting very busy with work already booked in for most of November and December has started to fill up
If you are planning on using GCL billiards before Christmas for work on your cue sports table , please book now we have only around three weeks of days left plus the odd day here and there.

WEIGHT LIMITS and PAYLOADS for 3500 van carrying snooker tables .

I had  a phone call the other day from another Billiards fitter I know very well on the south coast
he informed me he was stopped by the Police  in a long wheel base transit hire  van with a full size snooker table on board .
Not many people know this but Transits and sprinter Mercedes are not very good at carrying capacity or what is known as PAYLOAD , the long wheel base transit he was driving only had a Load weight of 1050 kg Payload.
some of those sprinters are below 1000 kg payload , they are not very good vans for Snooker tables removals and deliveries.
an average snooker table weighs in at 1150 kg and the thick welsh slate bed tables can be up to  1400kg .
He was fined for being 600kg overweight and had to unload three slates to carry on his journey then return and pick them back up again pl;us £40 for storage to a breakdown yard at a services on a Motorway
that was one very heavy table he had on the van
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Moving tables can take upto two days if distance is an issue  , this bottom of the range Riley Regis weighs around 1100 kg
Sam k steel set up slates being placed on leveling pads
We specialise in the movement and assemble of tables this Sam american pool table weighs around 800 kg
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the way you load a van can also be very tricky to work out , no more than 1000 kg on the back axle , these modern thinner italian slates are within that weight limit but if thicker welsh slate then this is loaded to the front of the van right up to the bulkhead separating panel  between load area and drivers cab
you have to cut down on tools to only taking what you require for the work as it all tallies up including the Driver the passenger and the Fuel in the tank is all regarded as Payload .
if you are border line then we only fill half a tank at a time .
pallaetized 10ft K&H being strapped
I did a lot of research when I chose our works van , the Newer shape Vauxhall Movano or the Renault Master which is the same vehicle really  is the van to go for and class leading in payloads for 3500 vans  , the Transit cannot touch it .
with the very small version carrying the most Payload and as you increase length of van the payload decreases
for example the normal no high roof standard wheelbase  version of the Movano has  a payload of 1684 kg , that’s a whopping 634 kg more weight carrying capacity than the long wheel base Ford Transit that my Colleague from down south had .
he was 600 kg overweight , and with that smaller movano van he could have been around 50 kg within the legal payload if he had been driving the L1 Vauxhall movano .
Ashbourne van outside snooker and Garage room
My van is the L2 H2 the medium wheel base medium roof version , you can move the load around a bit more and get the weight forward of the back axle
it takes a full size table within the back compartment without removal of the bulk head panel which protects the driver and passenger and the payload for our van is 1610 kg
I have worked that out that most snooker tables with a full tank of fuel and two people and tools on board we have a tolerance of 100 kg from type of table to carry within the payloads to stay within the Law .
We can increase this if we take out the double passenger seat and replace it with a single one and also take out the Bulk head panel , thus making the van weigh less but increasing the payload capacity by say a further 50 kg .
and you can buy them with just two seats in rather than the normal three seater.
The longer the wheel base then the payload decreases as extra weight for panel work comes into force , this is all for the 3500 range , which means the total weight must not exceed 3500 kg of van and load .
the next step up is a twin wheel version of the Movano which can carry way  over two tons 2000 kg , but these are very long vehicles and not easy to park .
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If we do have a very heavy table to move then it will of course be a bit more expensive to transport as we have to either use two vehicles or use jonhills removals who have a 7 ton removals van
I would say 95% of tables move can be done in our own Vauxhall Movano , but we do get the occasional thick heavy slate and heavy wood with steel cushioned table to move
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this table for instance was especially heavy , we did move it 35 mile but found out we were actually overweight by around 300 kg
a mistake that we cannot ignore anymore , if you have a very heavy table then it will be more costly to move as we will use two vans or jonills removals to deliver your table .
K&H wedding loaded on sidedoor view
this the normal way we stack a table inside the van , this one is within legal load weight and is positioned just right for back axle weight to front weight ratio to avoid light steering .
we carry just enough tools , to erect the table at the delivery address .
rushcliffe tables and shades on van
Very light Metric tables by Thurston are around 1150 kg we have two frames cushions  and the slates on here , we where transporting them to a council yard two mile down the road who had a weigh bridge
we weighed the van with two people on board and it came to a little over 1450 kg  with two tables and shades but one set of slates on .
with 1000 kg exactly on the back axle , and just below half a tank of fuel .

for comparison a Gallon of fuel weighs approx 3.5 kg , half a tank would be around 8 gallon , = 28 kg  , full tank around 60 kg .
Deduct that off the 1610 kg and it reduces the payload to 1550 kg,  less 200kg for driver and passenger = 1350kg
tools and a normal weight snooker table just come in on that weight limit on my van for 95% of tables .

The law is that the Police may give you leeway of a up to 5% discrepancy , warned and  tell you to take more notice of your load weight .

after the 5% it is a sliding scale of fines of around £100 per 200k kg overweight , if you go over 30% overweight then it is a court case and you will have to appear in court .
we cannot go above the load capacity using just  one van , we just cannot afford to do this . so if you have an extremely heavy table such as a Burroughs and watts solid oak or Mahogany  steel cushioned table then be prepared it will cost more to transport .

Read this and see the gulf between a Transit and a Movano for payloads.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/vans/news-and-advice/2015/march/top-10-vans-for-payloads-at-35t/

 

 

9ft snooker table set up plus re-rubber and re-cover in Ashbourne Derbyshire

I have been over to a farm in Ashbourne for a couple of days work
this involved taking an already dismantled 9ft snooker table from the Barn and installing it into a new build room that is attached to the main Farm house.
Ashbourne 9ft table erected slates on and level
The 9ft frame erected , slates on and leveled , cushions being stripped down on a blanket on the end of the table
notice the blankets protecting my clients brand new wood floor
Ashbourne 9ft rubber and cloth off cushions
the cushion showing that the rubber as well as the cloth has been completely removed and every tack or staple has been removed
Ashbourne 9ft glued and waiting to dry rubber and cushions
the blocks on the cushions and the back of the rubber has been coated with contact adhesive and these have to semi dry for around 20 to 30 minutes before positioning together to bond
if you bond too soon the glue never drys and the rubber slides down the wood block on re-covering , too long and it will fall off , timing is has to be just right .
always glue in warm room conditions , a very cold room and the glue does not dry .
Ashbourne rubbe ron and ready for re-cover 1
all cushions have gone through the process of having the rubber attached and shaped to pocket falls
Ashbourne rubber on close up shaped ready fro re-cover 2
the rubber has been shaped to the pocket openings and then taped to help keep rubber on the block from people sitting on cushions
the white arrow is cloth nap direction and the number is for cushion location on table , a table has 6 cushions and the Baulk end cushion is No 1 , gong in a clockwise direction no2 is to left of Baulk then 3/4/5/6
nap direction is to the left on 1/2/3/4 and to the right on 5/6 , this is to keep side cushion nap going in the same direction as the bed cloth nap direction from baulk D end to black ball spot end .
Ashbourne 9ft finished close up
the finished table , this table had new slates fitted to it by Padmores of Birmingham at some time in it’s life
and they where a modern 5 section slate  circa 1980/90s , the original set would have been a three section slate bed .
We noticed that the previous fitter had left all the cushion bolts washers missing , this is very bad practice and cushion bounce would have been affected , we replaced all missing washers and now the cushions are nice and tight with good rebound
Ashbourne van outside snooker and Garage room
Our van outside the new build snooker room of the Farm in ashbourne Derbyshire .

 

Re-cover Supreme winner pool table at Melton Mowbray Cricket club in Leicestershire

I have been over to Melton mowbray to re-cover a pool table I supplied to this client last year
Melton Cricket cloth off slate
the table is finished in light oak cabinet and has the red and cream badge this table is around 5 years old now dating it from that badge .
Melton cricket every staple out cushions
Every staple is taken out of the cushions , the other week on another job , I had to remove three sets of staples from a cushion set that a fitter had left them in for two re-covers , this makes it very tedious putting right what other cowboy speed fitters have done ,
it was like stripping three sets of cushions down instead of one . and he had done 15 tables like this ! that was like stripping 45 sets of cushions down . I was fuming !
always make sure that a fitter takes all the staples out every cushion on every re-cover and never let them change over cushions from a set they bring with them already covered , you could end up with the old red rubber set and your new black rubber set disappears with the fitter as he takes these Home with him to sell to other clients !
Ascot cushions stripped bad rubber
Just as an example here is an old red rubber set off another job that I was working on , old red rubber has a tendency to go rock hard or Spongy with very little bounce so do not let a fitter exchange cushions keep your cushion on your table
and not his old past there sell by date rubber , this is a common practice but one that GCL billiards will not do .
Melton Cricket finished and level coin mech fixed .
The table is now finished , brand new 6811 strachan cloth , new ball racking cloth fitted , and the client was complaining of the coin mech giving free plays , by gently pulling back the 50p before it drops , this was an anti cheat ratchet spring that had broken inside the coin mech , a simple strip down and replacement of the spring and the coin mech cannot now be free played by the players , the spring keeps a ratchet against v anti return grooves on one side of coin mech . So the coin has to complete it’s full travel forward and drop before the coin slide returns ready for the next coin .
If you cannot hear a gentle click click as you slide the coin mech in , then the anti cheat ratchet spring is broken .
This pool table has limited play over the year and takes around £650 per year , with the broken coin mech I would have said the takings would have been closer to £850 per year  or may be more ? , so it shows to keep the maintenance up on the coin mech as well as the cloth .
A replacement coin mech is around £75 delivered and fitted or £45 off ebay to fit yourself , a spring is £1 plus postage .
Lost revenue always exceeds the cost of a spare coin mech so it pays to keep a spare coin mech just incase it fails like this and when the fitter comes to re-cover it can be repaired and put inside the table as a spare which can be used if the replacement has a anti cheat spring malfunction .
there is only 6 screws to unscrew and screw back on to replace the coin mech so it is a DIY job to replace one and saves you around £35 .