Correct pocket openings on a Riley steel cushioned Aristocrat Snooker table after bad set up in Birmingham

I have been contacted by a client in the West Midlands who purchased a table from a firm not too far away , close to Sheffield.
He was after a Genuine UK made  twin bolted framed Riley Aristocrat to match specs including pocket openings as close to template as possible which is 3.5 inch at the drop.
I was also instructed to replace the bed cloth due to an accident with a chocolate bar that his Daughter had left on the table .
Here are a few photo’s that describe some of the faults that I found on close inspection.
birm hussain centre pocket out of alignment to one side
the first thing that stick out was the center pocket openings where not central to the table  , as you can see from this photo , the pocket fall is slightly positioned to the left of the cushion center pocket gap ,
this made the baulk end pockets very tight 3.1/4 inch and the spot end pockets at 3.5 inch .
birm hussain before middle not set correct too small
as you can see the template does not fit within the cushions , the center pocket is too tight .
birm hussain centre template fin
From this photo, you can now see that I have altered the pocket opening and centered it up to the fall , the center pockets are now to match spec. that was the easy part to do , my client can now pocket balls at a bit more pace ,
before they where being spat back out , as there was not enough gap to allow the ball to fall properly. they where ricocheting back and forth between the tight close together angles .
I was not re-covering the cushions so could not see if I could improve the undercut a bit more to reduce this even further , but did comment to my client that on the next cushion re-cover.
I could improve them a bit more by cleaning up any rough cut rubber that had not been finished off smooth .
birm hussain corner pen cut line to template
By careful removal and fold back of the cushion cloth on the corner , I placed my template and found that I had to remove a fair amount of rubber to make the pocket openings 3.5 inch at the fall .
above I have drawn around the template onto the top of the rubber to show just how tight these pocket opening are , the fitter who closed the middle pockets up , did this to make the corner pockets wider
The table pocket opening where not uni formal , you had two at 3.5 inch two at 3.1/4 inch and the center pockets tight and out of alignment with the center fall .
It was apparent that they just made the two spot end corner pockets that are used most in the game of snooker to template and just bodged the other corners and middle openings , and made a quick exit .
The camera tells the story so they cannot deny this .
birm hussain corner template fin
With the rubber cut and sanded and the undercut also smoothed out , the baulk end pockets are now 3.5 inch , the same as the spot end corner pockets they are all uni formal .
It is always better to re-rubber on the table rather than on a bench , I have been re-rubbering cushions for 40 years , and I always ask if I can re-rubber on the table rather than take them into the workshop ,
it is much better to set the pockets to the tables own slate falls .
Sometimes it is not possible to do this as the table may be in storage or dismantled and you have the cushions to work on , I tend to make a mock pocket opening up using a large square and cardboard to find the slate fall
Different fitters are taught different ways , but I find my way suits me and I end up with good pocket openings that are not going to cause a problem going forward .
Birmingham hussain finished
My clients table with correct pocket openings with templates in the pocket , and new bed Strachan 6811 tournament 30 oz cloth fitted.
birm hussain screw holding plate up cowboy 1
One other problem that was spotted , the use of wood screws to hold up a loose pocket plate , these where only loose because they had not set the center pocket opening wide enough making the corner pocket plates sag down .
I removed these screws and packed a little cloth inside the two pin holes that the twin pins from the pocket plate locate into , this made them ultra tight .
the use of screws over time would mean the ends of these cushions being chewed up , the wood falls apart and the pocket plate will become even looser .
A bad way of finishing the job off .
I also noted that this table did not have the proper adjustable slate muntins , under the table , these should wind up to the slate to prevent sagging down in the middle .
birm dummy bolt hole upper one
above  photo , the top button has a hole for a button but no hole in the side long frame rail with nut has been drilled , this is a a dummy bolt hole to make it look like it is a genuine twin bolt hole table , but the fact that the dummy bolt hole is near the top of the leg rings alarm bells it should be lower than this .
The table was ordered to be a genuine twin bolt UK made  Riley Aristocrat match table , in my professional opinion if I was asked , is that this table was originally a one bolt hole frame table , extra bolt holes have been added , but the end of the frame has only one bolt in and the top bolt hole is a dummy , this would not be the case if the table was genuine Riley Match play Aristocrat .
now I do not name and shame other firms , I do not get into arguments , but if a client is paying me good money to put a table right and asks why it was bad , I cannot say I will not comment , he is paying me not only for my time but my professionalism in the art of a fully qualified billiards table fitter , so if he asks me what the problem is before I remove the first screw and it is as obvious as these photo’s then I have to explain truthfully .
I take photo’s to prove this to be the case and also explain it by posting on my web blog .
so if you have a problem with a way a table is performing , it may be that the rubber is sitting on too high block work or that the pockets have not been cut to a template correct or set up correct in alignment as was the case here .
If you have any of the above problems then contact Geoff  at GCL Billiards on email c.large@btinternet.com  .
We will try to help sort out any problems you have been having with your table .

Latest Edition , Oak finish Supreme winner pool table rental / hire in the Nottingham and Derby Area , by GCL billiards.

GCL billiards also provide a rental service for pool tables
Our table of choice is the highly sought after world championship supreme winner pool table in 7ft by 4ft external measurements.
We have a nice oak finished table that will be ready to install on a 12 month rental contract in stock NOW.
winner at the gladstone
The table will be covered in Genuine Strachan napped 6811 all wool cloth
unless you require speed cloth for your venue .
winner-at-the-gladstone side view coin mech
Side view of Supreme Winner in oak with chrome metal corners and alloy cushion trim , this is the latest design of the supreme winner as used by the World and UK championships.
winner-badge world championship table green
The latest Green badge , showing the endorsements of the World Eightball pool federation and the UK pool tour .
supplied with genuine Aramith Pool balls  in reds and yellows , 4 cues , triangle and Brush plus soft black peradon fitted table cover .

Contact Geoff on 07753466064 . or email c.large@btinternet.com

Burroughs & Watts full size snooker table for sale in Cardiff , Very good condition .

We have a client in wales who wishes to sell their full size snooker table
the table is located in Cardiff
From the photo’s I can inform any buyer that the table looks immaculate
the polish is in very good order , although a personal inspection of cloth and rubber bounce would be advised.
lawernce dovey b&watts cardiff 1 end shot
The table is a Burroughs and watts , the end plate is advertising a re-rubber that was carried out , this was done pre 1968 , after this date Burroughs and watts where bought out by riley and the firm became Riley Burwatt
table will also come with the lighting shade and a scoreboard and all accessories , of which you will have to discuss with the seller .
dovey b&watts corner pocket opening
as you can see from this photo , the table has the Standard cushions and not the steel block type,
these cushions are more easy to maintain than steel cushions
Dovey cardif B7Watts side shot legs
the side shot of the table shows the very nice turned leg ,
dovey cue rack cardif
Our client says this is an antique  cue holder .
in over 40 years of working on antique tables I have never seen a free standing cue holder as small as this , the stand is sitting in a window , and the handles of the window give you an idea of size.
It maybe for another use , as I would not store cues upside down with the tip in those small holes , the weight above will warp the cue , someone may have sold this as a cue rack to our client ?
it just may be a cue rack but from the photo I cannot see how it works !

from this last photo , it appears the table may be in an upstairs location , this will mean extra men to get those heavy slates downstairs ,

as always the tables for sale in this section are all private sales .

any contact would have to be through GCL billiards to introduce you to our client.
if you wish to have a quote for the dismantle and set up of this table then please contact Geoff  at c.large@btinternet.com
or mobile 07753466064 , please have post code details and if the table is to be located on a ground or upstairs floor or basement and if any loose or soft grass ground from van to house and how many steps upto house doors .

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We have the correct equipment and van to move any full size snooker table in a professional manner.

Nice antique 9ft Jelks Billiard /Snooker table NOW SOLD !

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We have a client who wishes to sell their 9ft snooker table
the table has all accessories included with it , including an Iron .
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end View of this Jelks manufactured table
paul west snooker table 9ft 2
A full photo of the table , this table has the nice carved Tulip legs and the large pocket Billiards bag nets which would have been original type of net fitted for Billiards
You could convert to ring nets with rails if you so wish , but older pre 1895 tables which this one is , would have had the pocket bag nets on when first manufactured.
paul west 9ft 3
the cushions also have buttons that cover the cushion bolts , again this was normal to see these buttons on this age of table , as snooker tables evolved they used slide in panels to cover these bolts over.
paul west 9ft side accesories iron etc
the table comes complete with all the accessories that you see here
a modern brass effect lamp shade
two sets of balls , snooker and pool.
scoreboard
Brush
Thermostat Iron cue Rack
x rest
Spider rest
Chalk
I do not know if any cues are with the table ?

The owner requires Offers for the table ,
Geoff could give you a price to collect and install , Email Geoff at GCL billiards for more details of this very nice example of a Jelks 9ft Billiards Table.

c.large@btinternet.com

Scrap and recycle one old snooker table and replace with modern pool table , in Lincolnshire .

Today I have been over in Lincolnshire to remove a full size snooker table from an officers mess at an RAF base.
We where contacted a few months ago for a quote to do this work ,
The full size snooker table was scrapped and recycled at a friends salvage yard in Grimsby.
RAF lincs down to slates in room ready for trolley
the full size table we where taking out of the snooker room , This table had lower quality rubber that was dead and a very thick none branded cloth fitted by a local company that should have known better than to use cheap low cost materials .
I would never have used these lower quality materials , it may cost a bit more to use high quality northern rubber and Strachan 6811 tournament cloth but the work would have been quality .
this is how firms undercut GCL billiards quoted price they use inferior materials .
The table cushions where in very bad shape the woodwork was coming apart , it was not cost effective to bring this table back up to a good standard so they opted for a pool table replacement .
they still have a second table , but i’m afraid this had also been refurbished by the local firm using inferior cloth and rubber .
RAF table as we where dismantling lincs
both tables , we removed the most unattractive and in my opinion the worst bounce from the cushions table .
Leaving this officers mess with a nice looking large bulbous legged table
raf supreme prince wide shot of pool
A second hand 7×5 pool table in very good condition , this Supreme Prince coin operated pool table is set to free play , with brand new Burgundy Strachan pool cloth .
this is supreme’s premier table design .
RAF lincs supreme prince pool table
The officer in charge of the mess was very pleased with the quality of the pool table  which came with a new set of balls 4 cues triangle , 12 red chalk and a Peradon fitted UK made dust cover.
RAF lincs table recycle outside ready
Our van outside the rear of the officers mess , we had arranged for the salvage yard in Grimsby to send down a ford transit low loader flat bed with crane to pick the slates and woodwork up , we kept back some spare parts for future use on other tables , such as pocket plates and bolts .
you can see we have stacked the slates in a three and a two , this is because the small crane attached to the transit low loader can only lift three slates at a time .
I’m afraid we have recycled a few full size snooker tables in the past three years , this is because demand for full size tables is not good and the market is flooded with tables for sale , we do try and relocate as many as possible by offering clients who wish to get rid , a free advert in our for sale section
if you are selling a property that has a full size snooker table and there is a condition to get the table removed for the buyer of the property , then failing a sale recycling is the only option left .

Pool table re-cover in Strachan Super Pro speed cloth

We can also offer an alternative type of cloth to re-cover pool tables.
Our normal cloth for pool tables is a choice between Strachan 777 and Strachan 6811
We are now offering by special order , a speed cloth
The speed cloth of our choice is also Strachan branded and is called a worsted wool man made fibre mix and branded as Strachan super pro speed cloth.
toton super pro
Strachan super pro , professional cue sports cloth
toton strip down pool
this table is located in a Garden cabin , we recommended this speed cloth due to the fact that the previous cloth absorbed too much condensation and played slow
with speed cloth it is a much faster thinner cloth with less damp retention , and ideal for situations like log cabins or Garden sheds and Garage locations .
toton pool table recover
The completed table , the owner is delighted with how the table is now playing and text me a couple of days later saying, it is vastly different to play on since  we fitted the speed cloth !
We only recommend speed cloth for UK type pool tables if you are playing in conditions that can turn cold and hot , Garden buildings and Garage type locations are well known for this and produce dampness int he cloth .
By using speed cloth we keep the damp content much lower and the table plays much faster .
We would like to draw your attention to the make of cloth we use Strachan is a quality UK made cloth
Please be aware of lower all man made speed cloth from Europe and the far east , this type of cloth marks badly with friction burns and would look very bad after a few hours of play , the Strachan super pro is in our opinion the better cloth to use , that good that we can even supply it with designs printed into the cloth , like the one’s we do for Butlins with Budweiser design imprinted into the cloth
Butlins Artscape Budwieser purple and green water
You can have a design imprinted into the super Pro Strachan speed cloth , but this is expensive to do , please ask for a quote ,
if using a football club logo or trade mark logo with protection rights you will require permission from the trade mark owners to reproduce it ,
you must get this in writing and sent through to Strachan  before any order can be processed for that design .
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Butlins Skegness 6 full size re-cover’s in Strachan 6811 Cloth

We have been to Butlins to finish off a large order .
Our last emergency visit resulted in us fitting 4 new bed cloths , on that visit it was noted that a further 6 tables required urgent work.
so we have just visited Skegness for a week to re-cover 6 full size snooker tables plus other maintenance work .
butlins 8 and 9 tables
Two of the tables we have just completed the re-covering with new Strachan 6811 all wool cloth
butlins april 2015 1 table
another of the tables we had just re-covered .
butlins april 2015 side table
Some of the tables where in very bad shape , having big L shape rips in and unplayable.
Butlins looking down the room april 2015
Looking down the room from the bar area , all of the tables now look Green rather than old faded torn cloths .
Butlins in Skegness is the only Butlins to offer Free snooker as part of the all inclusive entertainment package .
If you wanted to play snooker at Minehead or Bognor Regis Butlins Holiday Camp you would be charged for it .
This makes Skegness Butlins so unique to cue sport enthusiasts .
We wish to thank Rob and Albert for their continued support in using GCL billiards as the main contractor for the maintenance of cue sports tables at Skegness .

10 x 5ft snooker table for sale near Stourport on Severn . Price by negotiation

We have a PRIVATE SALE  client who wishes to sell a 10 x 5 foot snooker table
the table is of modern manufacture and has a 5 section slate bed over a 6 legged frame .
please study the photo’s , the table looks in excellent condition and the cloth looks hardly played .
Stourport 10ft table top bed cloth
As you can see from the photo above the table looks immaculate , I am informed by the owner it has hardly been used .
TABLE WILL COME COMPLETE WITH ALL ACCESSORIES THAT WHERE SUPPLIED WITH THE TABLE FROM NEW INCLUDING BALLS SCOREBOARD AND CUES & RESTS .
the table will be sold with the cloth that is already fitted to the table , this cloth can be re-fitted by a competent billiards fitter , Geoff Large  will advise you and recommend  GCL billiards to carry his work out for any buyer .
stourport 10ft end cushion moulding and leg
The table has legs that resemble a Riley Regis  shape.
and it has an attractive molding on the lower edge of the cushions
stourport 10ft underneath 5 section slate bed
A photo of the underside showing supportive muntin and cross section all in hard wood ,
and the joints in the slates show it has 5 sections these will be around 1.5 inch thick
Price by negotiation , but our seller is very reasonable on price as the market has been explained to him .
Rear view of van Igor
If you require a fully qualified Billiards fitter , and the correct van and equipment to move this table , then  contact Geoff for a QUOTE at       c.large@btinternet.com