We have a client who wishes to sell a full size Karnehm and Hillman snooker table
condition is fair faded cloth and wood on one end .
all accessories in photo included including shade
as you can see the table is in good all round condition apart from some sun fading to wood at this end and cloth discoloration , but most would have it re-clothed anyway .
and it is priced to sell at just £250 .
~the table also has a BCE type scoreboard .,
the nets and leathers look in very good order .
photo from other end , polish is more darker this end
this is the faded wood end , not bad really and you will always get this in a private home the sun shines through a window or patio door as in this case and fades the wood .
in a snooker hall there is no windows and no fading but the table in a hall gets more hammer and use
The table ideally has to go by April
all inquiries to Carol or Geoff
c.large@btinternet.com
we will pass on any genuine inquiries for this table which is based in Buckinghamshire
if you require a quote to pick this table up and delivery assemble and maybe a re-cloth then also get in touch with Geoff at GCL billiards .
SOLD TO TRADE BUYER ….. YOU MISSED YOUR CHANCE TO BUY THEM AT VERY REASONABLE MONEY .
now a trader has bought them to sell on at much more money .
We have a set of brass billiard lights made by Christopher wray lighting emporium in the 1980s .
these retailed at around £1700 just for the main light when new .
and the wall lights would have been over £300 each .
and very rare to find matching wall lights X 3 is also included .
Regarded as the best replica Victorian gas style lighting ever sold .
some very ornate brass work and three fixing points rather than the bad one fixing points of copies of this light that where also hitting the market at the same period .
My client is asking for £650 for the complete set and it is based in North wales , but may be able to deliver if close by or on his run back and forth to London
a more close up photo showing detail
the three wall lights are on the far table in this photo
Metal shades rather than the Glass type , glass ones used to break when you used the long tackle , and lifted it on and off breaking the glass shades ,
causing damage to the bed cloth from falling sharp glass , so we do not recommend you buying a Victorian style lighting with glass shades , this one has been supplied with or upgraded to those metal painted shades .
Glass may look nice but they are dangerous to have .
as an example this light with glass shades is available on ebay at £250 second hand .
so you can see what value you are buying with the full size version.
GLASS is bad above a snooker or Pool table
all inquiries for the lights to Carol or Geoff Large at
We had this Mawson table on our web site in our Private sales section for a client based in Sheffield , our Scottish client spotted the table listed and I gave all details for the buyer and seller to get together and discuss the price to pay . although this table was firmly set at £1000 no offers .by the seller . Our Scottish buyer then instructed Geoff at GCL billiards to collect deliver and set back up in Peebels Scotland .
This is the story of an early Mawson billiards table being relocated to a village just outside Peebles in Scotland , a two day job was the schedule to relocate the table which had to come downstairs and then back upstairs . This was not so bad as it had very thin slates and did not weigh that much . an ideal table for upstairs location . we set out on the 28th of January to Sheffield to pick the table up and load it Blanket wrapped onto our van . Then it was off to Scotland .
Around 4 hours traveling we arrived at the Scottish Border , a very nice presented border crossing on the Scottish side , large sign and flag flying , a well looked after pull in , this put the English border side to shame as you will see on my report further on , on our way back home .
We made our way through the Scottish borders to arrive at our clients home around 2pm , just in time for a well deserved coffee and unload of frame and set up , ready for some extra guys to help get the slates upstairs . our client had arranged for 3 more guys to come along to help lift the slate upstairs and onto the pre leveled frame .
3 section slate on and 2nd level check and fill in slate joints with soft sand car body filler . Note the very thin slates , this is the thinnest slate I have seen on a table of this size of 9ft .
We then made good time in fitting the bed cloth on and also the cushions by 6pm
Mawson of Leeds , transfer on end cushion , skillfully kept on by the refurbisher Cloth on and almost finished .
You may note that this Mawson table which is circa 1880 to 1895 has some very nice Mahogany figured wood veneer , especially the flat side and end frame parts , the center leg having a butterfly book matched veneer pattern each side of the leg matching like opening a book and getting the mirror image in reverse so to speak .
This veneer is called book matched veneer some very nice flame mahogany was chosen for this table making it an high end piece of furniture when it was manufactured circa 1880 to 1895
The veneer was very high class work of art , and the flame mahogany ran all around the frame work and into the ends .
Expensive flame mahogany on end of frame work , the legs too are figured mahogany , a sign of top end tables .
The table had a few indications to it’s age , one is the top plates that have fingers of brass each side of the pocket leathers , these where faded out from 1895 and by the end of 1899 they had disappeared from most billiard tables fittings and the concealed fixed plates started to appear from 1895 .
You can see the type of pocket plate called the top plate , this had fingers of brass each side of the pocket that fixed on top of the cushion polished capping , these where discontinued after 1895 they became concealed pocket plates with no fingers of brass showing . many people say this is what the difference between a billiards and snooker is , but in fact all tables are billiard tables and that snooker is a game that you play on a billiard table . THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SNOOKER TABLE A phrase that has been passed down from billiard fitter to fitter . you can pretty much say any billiard tables with finger of brass top plates where made before 1895
On one cushion there was fixed a label that had a date of 1893, this maybe a re-rubber or modern rubber fitting label , as some rubber around that time was of different profiles , once a billiard firm had produced a better profile of rubber the other firms copied it , in these times of the 1890s they had thin layers of rubber cemented on top of each other much like laminating , the one piece L shape rubber became the norm around this time as the new modification to have and many tables had to have new blocks and rubber fitted to bring up to date . most tables where modified by late 1910 as the modern cushions where produced , this is why you see so many re-rubber names like the speedy reliable cushion or the arrowflite cushions as swift as an arrow . the firm i used to work for called there re-rubbered cushion the Empire Match cushion as can be seen from my photo of an old Elston & hopkin plate this is circa 1938 . But this paper 1893 label could be the Exact date the table was manufactured being just a couple of years before those top plates where discontinued by the majority of firms . and with a table number of 1275 this could be how many tables they had produced up to that date .
As an example and nothing to do with the Mawson table this is how a firm used to advertise the company by producing a plate when a cushion set was re-rubberized with say northern rubber and they had a name for their own cushion that they had worked on . In fact by this time all rubber was made by a handful of firms but the most popular and still is today is the northern rubber companies product made in Retford Nottinghamshire . by the 1980s it was deemed not lawful by the trades description act to carry on naming cushions if they where all using the same rubber so they stopped calling the cushions a personal named type . the trade description act also stopped the weight in ounces being stamped on cues too . and they replaced it with L / M/ H due to drying out and weights not being correct at time of sale . a fact not a lot of people know about .
We stayed overnight at an Hotel ( The Park ) in Peebles and our client paid for our stay over with meals and left us £20 for a drink behind the bar ( very nice of him ) we then returned to our clients home to check the level again and yes it had sunk a very slight amount into the carpet on two legs . a quick re-level and another cup of coffee and we had a very satisfied client who was delighted with the Mawson billiard table and with our work to relocate it for him .
The sign on the English side , very poor effort compared to the Scottish side The rag , the remnants of an English Flag , what a disgrace when you compare it to the other side of the road
even the flag pole had a fresh coat of paint on the Scottish side and although the wind has battered the flag it is still an acceptable flag to be seen . I am not sure if it is the tourist board or Northumberland district council who is responsible for the maintenance of the border signs and flags on the English side , but who ever it is they had better buck up their ideas , this sets an example of them not caring
Above Chettles industrial Estate on Ilkeston Road Nottingham showing weigh Bridge office . CIRCA 1970’s on the left My Uncle Ron Hume ( Curly ) he got me into Billiard fitting . a keen Golfer and member of the Variety club of Great Britain .
I came out of the Army in the year of 1976 , and started to work for my uncle’s firm Trent Valley Pool & Snooker tables Leisure firm in Chettles industrial Estate and office on lincoln Street basford . I worked alongside my cousin Gary Hume and A sub contract billiard fitter called Mick Robb who had a firm called Belvoir billiards . I stayed at Trent Valley Leisure for 4 years , then on advice from Mick Robb , I left and moved to Elston & Hopkin of Goldsmith Street Nottingham . although I still did a bit of work for my Uncle Ron and cousin Gary over the years while I worked for Elston & Hopkin , mainly at weekends or evenings and my boss at Elston & Hopkin did knew that I helped them out now and again . although their work and sales where nationwide and E&H where local east midlands mainly very little outside a 50 to 80 mile radius .so no conflict of interest . John hopkin was a very good Employer and Boss .
The entrance to Elston & Hopkin Empire billiard hall on Goldsmith Street . Now demolished to make way for the royal concert Center building in 1980 . Photo is Circa 1970’s
In 1980 Elston & hopkin where just being relocated from the very old Empire Theatre Building on goldsmith Street Nottingham where they had a billiard hall and a very fine fitted out Solid Mahogany sales counter for billiard table spares . cue sales and so on . I also got married in 1980 to my Wife Carol , who I am happy to say we are still together after 39 years of marriage and have two Daughters Helen and Kimberley and in 2018 our first Grand child Emily arrived .~ Sorry no Boys to carry on the business . Elston & hopkin moved into a workshop on Canal Street , also now demolished , and then into the Newark Street premises from 1980 . having a 18 table billiard hall , office and workshop on the top floor . of Davisella house right on the corner of Newark street & Manvers Street . Elston & hopkin moved out in the early 2000s and sold out to Universal logic in 2004 , I went with the firm to work out of a warehouse in Gainsborough Lincolnshire for the next 7 years . I look back on the 43 years I have been working as a Billiards fitter . I have learnt from everyone around me from my Uncles firm and Gary Hume to Mick Robb who was a big influence in my work , to Roger Perczynski and Alan Pykett at Elston & hopkin . I also learnt a bit of Computer presentation and promotion from my last boss Ted Roberts . I have had my ups and downs , but became self employed in May 2012 when I had started GCL billiards .
I have met some characters , and worked for some very famous people , as you can imagine it is not everyone who has a room for a full size billiard table , and most celebs and sports personalities do at sometime in their life have ownership or inherit through a house sale a full size table . But I get as much satisfaction working for normal working folk like myself as I do the high society and famous clientele . I look upon myself as the Caretaker in my time period of the billiard tables I work on . I am now approaching 65 years of age , and starting to feel the aches and pains of fitting such heavy tables . a bit of arthritis , a bad knee joint from my football days , and the normal getting old feeling that you feel creeping up on you . To the point that upstairs locations are now null and void and no go areas . let the younger fitters lift slate upstairs or into a basement . So I do not do this type of heavy lifting anymore , one bad job could put me off work for a long time so why risk it , just ground floor to ground floor locations and the van loading if I wish to carry on to my 70’s I do not know how long I will be doing this line of work , but I do aim to get to 70 years old at least full time . So at least another 5 years and two months to go yet . HEALTH PERMITTING of course . and maybe do 3 days a week then 2 days a week until retirement , but it is not unusual for 80 year old fitters to still be fitting tables and doing Re-cloths , At Elston and Hopkin they had an old fitter called Joe doing it until he was 80 odd years old . he fully retired just before I started there .
One of the best Snooker Players you could meet out there , Dennis Taylor My Granddaughter Emily .
SELLER HAS INFORMED THIS TABLE IS NOW SOLD VIA ANOTHER WEB SITE
SOLD SOLD SOLD !
We have a client who wishes to sell their very nice 9ft raise and fall dining table , the table was made by Hamiltons , and if you do your research this is a bespoke hand made piece that would be very expensive when made , and very rare to find a dining table / snooker table raise and fall type , and try finding one larger than 8ft . Try finding another 9ft snooker dining table that is 9ft playing area . once you get up to 8ft then finding one larger size than this becomes like finding a needle in a haystack ,, although we may have a full size George Wright windup action one coming up for sale soon so keep watching these adverts for that one .
Table is being sold as a PRIVATE SALE direct from the seller , who supplied the size of the slate bed , table is dismantled as we speak and is ready for collection , it may require a re-cloth
The table is a three section slate bed table for easy transport
All inquiries to c.large@btinternet.com
or contact Geoff at GCL billiards
Buyer responsible for collection , if you would like a quote from Geoff to collect this table for you and deliver it , then also please contact at above details
UNIQUE table not to be confused with low cost tables this one would have cost a lot of money when it was manufactured by Hamiltons
You only have to look at their web site , all tables are POA , why pay Hamiltons price when you can have the same for a fraction .
Wanted urgently a 10ft Karnehm and Hillman for a local Nottinghamshire client . prefer Buckingham model or turned leg model over a square leg one but open to offers of what is out there .
We have a client who wishes to sell their nice Riley Aristocrat full size snooker table . Table looks in good order with vast range of accessories included . Just £500 buy arranges for collection , GCL billiards will quote to move this table for any buyer and set it back up again on ground floor . All inquiries to
c.large@btinternet.com
or phone 07753466064 and speak to Geoff Large at GCL billiards
Today I have set up a full size BCE Westbury steel cushioned table at a clients house near Derby
my client is having his whole house modernized and extended , and some serious designs have gone into the property .
one thing they did require for the snooker table was a custom colour of Taupe from Hainsworth smart cloth .
Taupe is a kind of mushroom or faded camel colour is another way to describe it .
the cloth looks grey in the photo’s but close up it is mushroom soup colour .
Frame being set up , just the centre adjustable slate muntin’s ( centre slate bearers ) to be fitted next and a pre level of frame before slates go on .
stripping cushions ready for re-cover . slates have been fitted , and joints filled and level .
Match play steel cushions re-covered in the new Taupe coloured Hainsworth smart cloth .
Bed cloth being fitted
Table finished , Balls set up for play .
the light above the table is not my cup of tea , but the clients are looking into that with a possibility of changing it for something more suitable for the table .
if they deem it not suitable .
my clients are going to have the whole frame and cushion cappings painted in another colour
