These Karnehm and hillman tables are good modern no nonsense tables .
this one looks in good order , it does have some x rest nibble on the lower edge of the cushions .
the cushions may have a few marks in the polish , but the cloth looks good .
First £250 buyer arranges collection from a Garage at a private house , so easy access .
Location close to Bewdley . DY12 area .
GCL billiards would be happy to quote for removal and transport and set up on ground floor .
It is with great sadness that I have been informed of the passing of David Gibson of Beeston Snooker Hall in Nottinghamshire aged 78. I have known Dave for many years since the 1960s aged 14, when I used to wag an afternoon French lesson at school in the winter months and go down the Billiard Hall with many of my school mates for a warm on the pipes that surrounded the hall. Little did I know back then that I would be re-covering the tables in there one day as a time served billiards fitter.
Below is a photo of Beeston Snooker Hall – notice those large warm pipes around the outside edge.
Dave was always one for inventions and gadgets, and was keen to show people what he had achieved by experimentation or manufacture. For Instance, before computer controlled lighting for snooker tables, Dave invented a timer with mechanical digital counters for hours and mins used. Many of the internal parts came from the pinball and slot machine industry. My own boss John Hopkin at Elston and Hopkin Billiards Ltd bought one in 1980 for our new 18 table Snooker Hall on Newark Street, Nottingham (now the Spot On club). We also bought a cue sanding tipping machine that Dave had made up with a sewing machine motor and rotating sanding disc.
Dave had made in perspex a special marking out device for baulklines. He experimented with heat and anti slate bow bars on his tables in the hall. I was shown on one recent visit a ball ramp with a laser attached. This ball ramp with measure of incline and adjustable incline was used to measure such things as ball travel on a cloth, rubber rebound value and distance rebounded and by using the laser light on the back of the ball as it rolled off the ramp, you could see the ball roll off due to nap or table being out of level. Dave was a very clever man and was well respected in the snooker and billiard community. He got to know many of Beeston’s Snooker and Billiards players by first name.
Dave always kept a good stock of cues and accessories at the Hall. The above photo shows his range of cues on rotating tables for easy viewing. This was another one of Dave’s inventions. The photo below has another of Dave’s gadgets at the left hand side of the display case, but don’t ask me what it is for. I think it is for some sort of game played on the table.
Dave sponsored the local snooker competitions and leagues over many years since the 1960s in and around Nottingham and Derbyshire. He also purchased many trophies, one such trophy made out of bronze was very heavy and stood 4 foot high approx.
Dave was also a Committee member of the NBSA which is the Nottinghamshire Billiards & Snooker Association of which he was a valued member.
In the 1970s Dave came over to my uncle’s firm where I was working at that time. I had just started work as a Trainee Billiards fitter back then and Dave gave me some useful information of where I was going wrong that day as I was having difficulty in recovering some cushions, so you could say he had some early input on my career as a Billiard fitter.
It was only recently (November 2012) that I jogged Dave’s memory of what he had taught me back then. I think he was a bit chuffed that he had some input and could see that I had taken my training as a billiards fitter seriously and after 37 years was still at it.
David Gibson’s funeral is to take place on the 22nd of January 2013 at 11.45am at Bramcote Crematorium (Main Chapel).
My condolences to wife Kathy and family and friends too many to mention by name.
I attended David’s funeral today and what a turn out he had , a large number of friends and relatives seated and standing at the rear , Dave would have been proud that he had so many well wishers at his funeral .
and I know Kathy would like to wish everyone who attended a big thankyou for attending the Funeral .
A great send off for Mr Snooker as many knew him .
We will post out two units for a full size snooker table including tubes for £229 a set or £130 per single unit for a pool table. Rated at 58 watts per tube, the lighting is very good and local players in Derby can experience this at Mickleover British Legion, where the Match table has had this new lighting installed along with a full renovation of the playing surface in strachan 6811 tournament and Re-place the Rubber for new Northern rubber .
If local I will deliver personally and help install the lighting and then check for table level after install. Only qualified electricians with a part P qualification are allowed to connect any electrical units up by law. This is for your own insurance standards too. Even though these units are as easy to connect as a three pin plug, they should be wired up by qualified electricians AND MUST BE EARTHED !
If ceiling is a short distance we recommend fitting directly to the ceiling for that neater look (see above photo). If it is a high ceiling then a hanging wire fitting kit will be required which is an extra cost (see photo below).
or we may even suggest for ease of fitting , to use the existing chain from youre old shade like the photo below . for full size tables this will require two 3 metre lenths of U channel available from B&Q for not much extra. around £6 a lenth ?
Many thanks to the pubs and clubs who have had the new lighting installed and for recommending GCL BILLIARDS to visiting cue sports teams for both snooker and pool tables lighting . There is nothing worse than a dimly lit table and as these three photos prove, a well lit table is an inviting table to play on. I am sure the takings will go up too which has been proven in some of the clubs that have had these light units fitted.
CONTACT GEOFF ON 07753 466064 FOR MORE INFO AND TO PLACE AN ORDER.
Another client who is wishing to sell his good condition full size Snooker Table which is located in Hearne Bay Essex. The table’s wood work looks in good condition, the cloth that will be upto the buyer if he decides it requires a recover or even a re-rubber, GCL BILLIARDS can quote for this. The table was fitted by Steve Davis’ brother who is a billiard fitter.
Table is open to offers, buyer collects. There is a Dowsing Iron and a pure bristle brush, but this will only be sold with the table if a suitable price is met, otherwise these items will be sold separately on Ebay if the table is sold first. My advice is try and get them with the table. A new iron on its own is over £200 and they do not make those pure bristle brushes like the one with the iron anymore.
Balls triangle and rests are included with the sale. Lighting is a coffin shade, but we recommend the new pro lighting twin tube units over any coffin shade if you buy this table, which GCL Billiards stock for dispatch.
GCL BILLIARDS has not inspected the table, we have only seen the photos. If a buyer is found GCL BILLIARDS can quote for removal, transport and installation in new premises ready for play. Contact Geoff at email@example.com or 07753466064 quoting sqaure leg hearne bay Essex table, for contact details of seller. Only genuine buyers please.
Here are a couple of photos showing in photo 1 a not so good effort of finished undercut at the corner pocket. This one more so because it is supposed to be a steel block match table. I have seen much worse than this, but to point a few things out, the rubber at the top edge is too sharp and can cause the cloth to split if left sharp. Yes rubber can cut through cloth quicker if not sanded slightly at the cut edge. The undercut is convexed, it has been sanded but not at the back edge, where you can still see knife cut marks.
The second photo Below is of the correct way to undercut the corner angle, nice smooth lines no sharp rubber on the upper edge. Undercut is concaved to allow for the round edge of the ball to slightly tuck under the lower flat face as it enters into the pocket on impact to the undercut and no knife mark cutting in the undercut at all.
This work was carried out by Geoff large a Time served billiards fitter of GCL BILLIARDS , over the years the art of cutting and shapeing the rubber has not changed much , but the angle and undercutt has been changed many times to suit the modern play and the governing bodies , some fitters recutt the rubber to the old fashoned angles , if you want it done correctley to modern standards contact GCL BILLIARDS .
We will recover in genuine Strachan cue sports cloth any 6×3 or 7×4 UK pool table and include a dust cover, a set of balls, 12 blocks of chalk, new triangle and a brush for just £165. We have three main colours of cloth available – green, blue or burgundy.
This offer is for the month of January 2013. Please phone 07753 466064 or email firstname.lastname@example.org quoting GCLB3 offer recover/acesspack.
We can also quote as an extra for a new set of cushion rubber. Please send a photo of the type of Pool table you have to email@example.com
We also stock pool cues, rule sheets, cloth cleaning spray, other types of pool balls spots and stripes budget quality to high quality, also high quality reds and yellows and chrome free standing cue racks. Plus we also do the new pro twin tube lighting. If you would like to upgrade your order to include any of these please ask.
When looking for people to work on your Pool table we are second to none in the cue sports industry for recovering and re-rubbering all cue sports tables of any design or make. .
So book us in confidence that your table is in good hands and that the workmanship and materials used are of top quality.
We are time served billiards fitters with over 37 years experience on UK Pool / Snooker / Billiards and 8 ball cue sports tables.
We offer the complete package. We are not experienced in one part of maintaing cue sports tables, we are experienced in all !
Just got a telephone call this morning from a local well known club that has just been taken over , they where desperate to have 5 tables dismantled for alterations today , I was just enjoying my Christmas & New year holidays and had to cutt it short to come in and do this work for them .
They have 15 full size tables and they are going to have 10 Supreme Winner pool tables to county pool standard and hoping for a match room with a further 3 or 4 full size snooker tables , located near the Centre of Derby with a large Car park , they have also given the go ahead for one full size table move set up and Recover plus nets and leathers to start the ball rolling of the Snooker Table refurbishments , then it’s see how they go for more Regular work each month in 2013 .
I would like to thank them for choosing GCL BILLIARDS for the work going forward in 2013 , and also the the people who have recommended us to them . it just goes to show that if you do good workmanship , then the work will come in through recommendation as well as the web site and advertisements.
We have a top of the range Supreme Prince Pool Table for Hire / Rental contract , £15 per week ,which includes two recovers a year , just been refurbished in Burgundy Red strachan cloth , but can change to another colour if you wish , new cushions and virtually unmarked brand new condition cabinet and legs, ready to start earning money for Pub or club Site , set on 50p but can be changed to £1 or any combination .
A set of club standard and Aramith premier match play balls with this table , we are cue sports hire specialists and we understand that most pubs and clubs have pool teams playing in winter and summer leagues , so we recover every 6 months , that way the table is at it’s best at the start of each league season .
Table will be maintained by a time served billiards fitter who takes his time in getting the table to play level just like in the photo below of the digital level reading a perfect 0.0 , unlike some firms who just dump a table in and forget about them until the landlord moans , we do not hire out slot gaming machines so all our attention and expertise is 100% on youre pool table ,
We prefer to rent our pool table’s local in the Nottingham and Derby area if possible .
If you are having problems with ypoure current table and you are not satisfied with the service they do , and are not tied to them , then please get in touch , we are sure you will not find a better Cue sports rental / hire firm than GCL BILLIARDS and our rental side of the business in DOUBLE 8 POOL TABLES.
Contact Geoff for further details on 07753466064 or email firstname.lastname@example.org
If youre Snooker table is due for a Re- rubber than do not settle for anything less than northern rubber , make sure it is northern rubber that the fitter is fitting , we often come across tables that have had lower priced canvas backed Taiwan rubber fitted which only realy lasts around 5 years , where northern rubber if kept at room tempreture will last around 20 to 25 years.,
here are a few photo’s of what it takes to get the pockets cutt at the correct angle ,
After marking around the template , the rubber is cutt with a very sharp knife to just outside the pen mark to allow for sanding exact .
once the rubber has been sanded exact , the undercutt of the rubber is done , again with the same sharp knife , notice that I have left a flat nose of rubber all the way around the angle this is the modern way to undercutt , in the 1980s and before this date , the angle was to a point in the curve and did not have the flat edge all the way into the pocket , if youre table has pointed undercutt rubber without the flat nose , then the rubber is about due to be renewed , this photo shows the rough cutt before it is sanded smooth , you can see the knife marks in the undercutt , I often see work where the fitter has just left the undercutt like this and not smoothed it out , this is not good for a smooth entry of the ball into the pocket like the smoothed out undercutt.
This is the finished undercutt , notice that all sharp angles have been smoothed out , and those knife cutt marks also have gone , this is how a good Re-Rubber should be done , if youre fitter is time served you will have a job done as good as this , the actual undercutt is concaved to allow for the curve of the ball to get under the angle nose of the rubber and deflect into the fall of the pocket .
It has been my observation over the last 20 odd years that some companies and even one man operations are just in the Cue sports trade for as much as they can get out of it quickly , this means cutting corners , speed fitting has never been one of my like’s , and I have always insisted I have enough time especialy on intricate work like re-rubbering , if the job is not done to a high degree then you will not be satisfied with the result , At GCL BILLIARDS we may be £20 to £30 more expensive than other firms on a re- rubber or re-cover , but as they say you get what you pay for we always use top brand materials and top quality time served billiard fitter to do the work . as can be seen from the results a smooth well done finish takes a bit more extra time, 2 days on this job when some would have speed fitted it into one day , and at the end of the day that extra time is what you are paying for .
an old stock photo of the stamp that is put on every Rubber , always ask to see this if the re-rubber is being done on site , a good fitter will not take this printed stamp off the rubber , it may be under some tape though , a good fitter will allways show the customer this stamp , there is also raised lettering on the under edge of the rubber that also informs you that the rubber is Genuine northern rubber .
all the above photo’s of the Riley table was work carried out 2 days before christmas day (includeing working christmas eve) , the customer contacted us on 22nd December and was desperate for the work to be done as a Christmas present for her young son who is an up and coming snooker player aged 12 ,from Leicester , he plays on a couple of star tables in Leicester and wanted his Riley to have similar sized pro pocket openings of the star tables , these openings at the fall are now 3.1/2 inch they used to be 3.5/8ths, the cushions are not steel block , but he will get that valuable practice on tight pockets which should improve his skill of accuracy , the cloth was a second hand ex pro tournament number 10 cloth grade ,that the customer supplied themselves via a local professional tour player , the cushion cloth is 6811tournamant and the new rubber is Northern rubber date of manufacture in August 2012.
The only other improvement to this table now is the lighting , he would be much better off with new pro type tube lighting with the white light tubes , two 5 foot units approx 5 foot above the bed is recommended GCL BILLIARDS also supply these., I would not recommend fitting steel blocks to this table ,if the young lad improves to a much higher standard and joins the pro circuit , then he will not settle for anything less than a proper professional Star table with the steel blocks cushions and the heated slates , in the meantime this table is good enough for improveing his skills .
GCL BILLIARDS are time served fitters and can do Re-rubbering to a very high standard , please contact Geoff if you would like this work doing . or wish to enquire for an estimate.