I will not be available to answer any phone calls or emails until next tuesday
I have a very busy weekend ahead of me and therefore cannot attend to the firms phones or PC.
We have a client who is converting a room for a full size snooker table
this room will be ready for a table around February 2019
below we have two Aristocrat tables that have been advertised and sold on GCL Billiards web site by private sellers .
Our client would like one in pristine wood work condition , rubber cloth and nets and leathers are not too important
but we are looking for the best available out there that is being privately sold and in home use only .
this one was sold and installed in France last year .
this one was sold and installed in Lougborough two years ago .
both in very good order woodwork wise and only had private use .
ideally we are looking for a Made in UK model .
slates have to be in good order too and level and not dished .
if you have a Riley Aristocrat or a good Karnehm and Hillman Buckingham model table in unmarked polish condition then please contact Geoff at GCL billiards .
we have a cash buyer lined up for the right table .
Please be realistic with your expectations of price , it is a buyer market .
things like cost of dismantle and deliver and set up plus any cloth or rubber reconditioning will have to be taken into account on price given for a basic Aristocrat table .
we can discuss values by sending a photo to Geoff or Carol Large at GCL billiards email address
the only other full size snooker table our client may be interested in is a Karnehm and Hillman Buckingham table like this one
*** please note
Dealers need not contact , we are looking for a Private seller for our client
Many of the advertisements that you see on search engines are not what they appear to be , many claiming to be experienced in the art of billiard fitting for snooker and pool tables are just agents passing on work to qualified people , they then take a commission out of the price for passing on this work . this applies mainly to Pool table operators who recover pool tables passing on information to proper time served billiard fitters who are then hit with a commission fee or sub contract to the middleman for a fixed labour fee.
When looking for experienced people to work on youre cue sports table , always do some home work , ask if they or an EMPLOYEE ( not subcontractor ) will be doing the work or passing the information onto a third party .
At GCL BILLIARDS we are fully experienced billiard fitters for working on any cue-sports table , UK POOL , AMERICAN POOL , OLD BILLIARD TABLES , and modern SNOOKER TABLES , BAGATELLE AND BAR BILLIARDS , the best way to find out if the person you are talking to is fully qualified in the art of Billiard fitting , is to ask technical questions , such things as pocket sizes and cushion rubber height , table height , History of tables etc , difference between tables made in periods significant changes where made such as pocket plate design , slate first used , what was used before rubber etc .
GCL BILLIARDS will not overcharge for their service , a pool table recover starts at £185 , a Full size snooker table £430 club cloth £450 Tournament cloth , and we only use top graded strachan cloth unless the customer prefers another choice .
we will point out we are not the lowest price , yet we are also not the dearest price , we try and stay within £20 of our equal competition , that extra £20 is for Experience , and safe in the knowledge that your table is in safe hands and that we are using top quality materials not seconds as some do .
And you can be assured you will have the work carried out by a TIME SERVED billiards fitter . *** with no added commission or middlemen charges.***
GCL billiards do not subcontract to other firms and we do not use sub contract fitters , we have our own identity and our own fitting standards based on 42 years experience , we do not want to assist another firm who do not have the same experience have that skill and compete against us in our market sector , it would be like letting someone in on our area and helping them establish themselves using our 40 year experience and skills as a spring board ,
and say to them HERE YOU ARE TAKE OUR WORK AND WE WILL WORK FOR YOU !
Our main area covers from Sheffield to Northampton and East coast to Stoke on Trent , we do further than this but we like to remain a Billiards firm that concentrates at least 90% of its clientele in the midlands .
I am constantly refusing subcontract work for other firms on a monthly basis as they try to muscle in on our area .
Most of these firms that contact us are just keyboard firms using subcontractors around the UK to form a business of which they pay peanuts to the firm and pocket a good percentage for themselves .
they have no experience in Billiards / Snooker & pool table fitting apart from what they have read on the internet or from books .
I do take on the odd table sale from other firms say from Scotland , that require a fitting service if they have sold to a client in my area , but that is about as far as I will let other firms into my area and to compete against us .
My advice to anyone seeking a skilled firm for their snooker or pool table re-cover is to look at that firms past work and standing within the Billiards fitting community .
Geoff Large of GCL Billiards has over 42 years personal experience of Billiards fitting from early antique Billiard tables to modern day Billiard tables that are mainly designed for the game of Snooker .
We also have a vast experience on Pool tables renovation , from UK pub type tables to 9ft american pool tables .
Brunswick 9ft pool tables at Butlins Skegness maintained by GCL billiards
Sam american K steel pool tables installed by GCL billiards .
We have a client who wishes to sell their circa 1910 to 1920 6ft oak Riley diner.
Table is in need of some TLC to bring it back up to a £3000 table which is what some would want for a fully renovated table like this .
but priced to sell as is and buyer collects for just £350 .
please look at the following pics , serial number of this table starts with A6 , A stands for Accrington and 6 = 6ft
this table is an early one it has buttons instead of slide in panels to cover cushion fixing screws . .
Table is in the North Staffordshire area of SK17 near Buxton and Leek area .
all inquiries to Geoff at
NOW SOLD SUBJECT TO COLLECTION
We have a client in West Yorkshire who wishes to sell their full size Riley Aristocrat full size snooker table
Please note this table has the standard cushions on and NOT steel block cushions .
But it is very reasonably priced at just £500 .
All the accessories are with the table, light shade , cues and rests, balls triangle and scoreboard
it will require a re-cover , unless you are happy with the cloth that is on it .
turned fluted legs
Pocket openings look around 3.5 to 3.7/8ths at the fall
Polish cushion wood capping’s look in very good condition
If you would like a quote for picking up from ground floor , delivery and assemble on ground floor only then please contact GCL billiards for a quote
also a quote for a re-cover if required .
….. PLEASE NOTE …..The table is in an upstairs location at the moment , but the seller may be able to arrange a dismantle and get downstairs ready for collection ,
this may require a bit more cost to the buyer .
any inquiries to Geoff at GCL Billiards and I will pass on your details to our selling client.
the Table is located in Heckmondwike Yorkshire
Snooker and pool table work used to be a seasonal thing a few years ago
we used to experience a lull or a slack period mid summer and just after Christmas and New year
but if recent years are anything to go by and the fact that Pool is now our number one sport over Snooker in cue sports pastimes .
Then it is no surprise work coming in has no high or low spots , we are not experiencing any lull or slack period in work .
and I give full warning that we cannot take anymore work on until September and that month is starting to fill in as we speak
On the snooker side we have our regular clients and on average visit clubs every year for either a re-stretch of bed cloths or re-covers .
our private home clients we average a visit every 5 years , for service re-level , re-stretch work or major work like re-rubber and re-cover or house move and the table goes too .
We get some tough job’s too like fitting abnormal rubber size due to clients requirements to unconventional block work
We are often re-rubbering and opening or closing up pocket openings in the process of a re-rubber
but a lot of our work is now taken up with the popular sport of Pool
many club’s have extended their pool lounges , and installed more pool tables than snooker tables these days .
some have a few American 9ft 9 ball tables too
We do a high volume of pool table maintenance these days .
and when it comes to pool tables , the lower cost in cloth and labour per full size mean they have work done in large quantities , and more regular .
sometimes all the tables in the room are re-covered in one go .
some club’s have a more balanced view and ratio of pool to snooker is pretty even
This club used to have all snooker now they just have three , and 7 uk pool , and one Chinese 9 ball table .
their is always the exception when it is FREE to play in with your Holiday fee at Butlins .
But since this photo 2 have gone and two more are in the pipe line to go , as improvements to form a sports lounge is implimented
we may see some American pool tables in the future as they look to improve the different venues in Butlins .
I am informed they may have plans to turn this American 9 ball hall into a 9 table UK pool hall .
and move some of these tables over to the Sports bar / Snooker room part .
they say this at Butlins every year for the last 10 years , but the time will come that it will happen .
now and again we get one of these to renovate , not so easy to work on as it is all in miniature
some cushions come like this
we refurb to this , using larger rubber .
and the end result after a re-rubber , see we really know our stuff !
after 42 years personal experience Geoff Large of GCL billiards is one of the best fitters in the country , not that there are a lot of experienced fitters about these days .
due to none training up and retirement , the specialist fitters are more hard to find .
and it is going to get worse as in 6 years time I may even retire .
Below is a few photos of the type of work that we come across .
just some of the bad workmanship I come across in the next few photo’s
these are typical bad workmanship that I come across .
as I have said I am now taking bookings for September , I am worth waiting for , all I can say is the above bad workmanship is still being done out there ,
it is pot luck if you get a fitter with high standards and the ethics that have been passed down from fitter to fitter in my history .
so please wait for us to become available and book early for work .
Today I have been over to Beeston in Nottingham to a club that I have been working on their tables for over 38 years .
They relocated to an old building in the town when they built the new Tesco’s around 12 to 14 years ago .
both tables are Burroughs and watts steel match cushioned circa 1920s ,
Rigidus frame model where the centre legs are closer together and not equal spacing with end legs .
Both tables will be re-covered in Strachan 6811 tournament 30 oz cloth .
the last time I did them was in 2013 so they have lasted close on 5 years .
this club does not get as much use as other club’s , the relocation took them from a prime spot near the high Road to the outskirts of town .
and the car park is now very small compared to the old club , where you could park up let the Wife go shopping while you have a frame or two of snooker .
you may note all the cue cases on the wall ,Not many club’s do this now .
Members have a hook and sometimes a chain they can interlink each case and padlock it to the chain .
Many club’s do not like their walls cluttered like this , but this club still has this facility for members to store their cues on the club premises .
I was treated to a viewing of the pre fly over practice run of the 100 year celebration at RAf Cranwell last week
and today watched it on TV flying over the Mall LIVE !
all the aircraft had took off from RAF Conningsby and where to fly over the Dome tower at RAF Cranwell .
I took a few photo’s on my phone of a few planes as they flew over , the first to arrive where the Chinook’s Helicopters .
the Helicopter formation arriving from the East over RAF Cranwell Airfield approaching from the East .
and as they passed overhead , they made a right racket those twin rotor Chinook’s .
a few more Fighter planes going over in formation .
and as they approached
Awacs early warning radar .detection plane
another wave of fighter jets .
another formation going overhead
and a few more
the reason I was at RAF Cranwell was to Re-rubber and re-cover two full size snooker tables and a pool table in the Sgts and Warrent officers mess .
one of the finished tables
one had new nets and leathers fitted .
It is not every day that you get to see a 100 plane fly past of aircraft practicing for the fly past down the mall which took place today to celebrate 100 years of the RAF .
One for the Billiard fitters travel stories memoirs .
Just spent last week working at Butlins Skegness in the Green Baize club .
three complete re-covers , one replacement Bed , 3 sets of nets and leathers and odd nets and ball rails to replace .
This week I have two full size snooker tables to re-rubber and re-cover and a 7ft pool table at RAF Cranwell Sgts Mess .
they are in a bit of a mess having had low cost rubber bad rebound value fitted last time , and all cloth slips nailed in by a well known local Midlands firm they used last time .
I am putting them right fitting top quality Northern Rubber and Strachan Tournament 6811 cloth 30 oz and new nets and leathers .
The pool table has rock hard cushions so I am replacing these too
You only get a good table if you use Good materials , so be aware of lower quotes and always ask what rubber and cloth they are using , and look at the goods when they fit it .
fitters who tend to use lower grade goods also do a lower grade workmanship , they have no pride or morals , so be aware , you get what you pay for , there is no such thing as low cost quality materials and workmanship .
Northern rubber comes in packs of six with stamped date of manufacture on each rubber
this is an old photo for an example of what to look for , I fitted November 2017 made cushions .
the cloth will have this transfer on the underside
also two blue lines embroidered in on one edge .
Nets and leathers I use are top quality and supplied by Peradon .
all the materials I use are top quality , I cannot barter the price down on quality goods .
and firms that do undercut me do use inferior materials and bad workmanship such as nailing in cushion cloth slips ,
as proved today when I stripped down the first table in the RAF site .
And I am finding by showing the client these things I get repeat work from them .
they Know GCL billiards is a firm to trust their cue sports tables with .
No corners cut , and no inferior materials used .