Many of the advertisements that you see on search engines are not what they appear to be , many claiming to be experienced in the art of billiard fitting for snooker and pool tables are just agents passing on work to qualified people , they then take a commission out of the price for passing on this work . this applies mainly to Pool table operators who recover pool tables passing on information to proper time served billiard fitters who are then hit with a commission fee or sub contract to the middleman for a fixed labour fee.
When looking for experienced people to work on youre cue sports table , always do some home work , ask if they or an EMPLOYEE ( not subcontractor ) will be doing the work or passing the information onto a third party .
At GCL BILLIARDS we are fully experienced billiard fitters for working on any cue-sports table , UK POOL , AMERICAN POOL , OLD BILLIARD TABLES , and modern SNOOKER TABLES , BAGATELLE AND BAR BILLIARDS , the best way to find out if the person you are talking to is fully qualified in the art of Billiard fitting , is to ask technical questions , such things as pocket sizes and cushion rubber height , table height , History of tables etc , difference between tables made in periods significant changes where made such as pocket plate design , slate first used , what was used before rubber etc .
GCL BILLIARDS will not overcharge for their service , a pool table recover starts at £185 , a Full size snooker table £430 club cloth £450 Tournament cloth , and we only use top graded strachan cloth unless the customer prefers another choice .
we will point out we are not the lowest price , yet we are also not the dearest price , we try and stay within £20 of our equal competition , that extra £20 is for Experience , and safe in the knowledge that your table is in safe hands and that we are using top quality materials not seconds as some do .
And you can be assured you will have the work carried out by a TIME SERVED billiards fitter . *** with no added commission or middlemen charges.***
GCL billiards do not subcontract to other firms and we do not use sub contract fitters , we have our own identity and our own fitting standards based on 42 years experience , we do not want to assist another firm who do not have the same experience have that skill and compete against us in our market sector , it would be like letting someone in on our area and helping them establish themselves using our 40 year experience and skills as a spring board ,
and say to them HERE YOU ARE TAKE OUR WORK AND WE WILL WORK FOR YOU !
Our main area covers from Sheffield to Northampton and East coast to Stoke on Trent , we do further than this but we like to remain a Billiards firm that concentrates at least 90% of its clientele in the midlands .
I am constantly refusing subcontract work for other firms on a monthly basis as they try to muscle in on our area .
Most of these firms that contact us are just keyboard firms using subcontractors around the UK to form a business of which they pay peanuts to the firm and pocket a good percentage for themselves .
they have no experience in Billiards / Snooker & pool table fitting apart from what they have read on the internet or from books .
I do take on the odd table sale from other firms say from Scotland , that require a fitting service if they have sold to a client in my area , but that is about as far as I will let other firms into my area and to compete against us .
My advice to anyone seeking a skilled firm for their snooker or pool table re-cover is to look at that firms past work and standing within the Billiards fitting community .
Geoff Large of GCL Billiards has over 42 years personal experience of Billiards fitting from early antique Billiard tables to modern day Billiard tables that are mainly designed for the game of Snooker .
We also have a vast experience on Pool tables renovation , from UK pub type tables to 9ft american pool tables .
Brunswick 9ft pool tables at Butlins Skegness maintained by GCL billiards
Sam american K steel pool tables installed by GCL billiards .
We have a client who wishes to sell their nice looking Birmingham billiards 10ft table
The table will require 4 adjustable slate supports brackets and support beams modification as this is something that Birmingham billiards often miss out .
They should fit them but they just do not for some reason .
If you have GCL billiards quote to move the table for you and employ them , we can also arrange to have these fitted at extra cost
The table itself is £500 as it is on site , any dismantle loading removal delivery unloading setting up and modifications work , will be charged extra , please get in touch with GCL billiards for a quote to do this .
The £500 asking price is a very good price for one of these .
Originally this table would be around £3000 to £3500 when new ., and the owner did say they paid £3300 for it .
The table is situated in Ettington near Stratford on Avon .
the 10ft table comes with the lights and matching scoreboard , cue rack cues and balls .
Both snooker and pool ball sets .
the spots on the table is the reflection of the light bulbs , these lights do this and I do not really recommend these type of lights for tables , best to use twin tube or LED panel lighting .
but it may be a simple change of bulbs from clear glass to frosted ones to sort the spot problem out .
as you can see the cloth is pretty decent and has some life left in it , so this will save you a re-cover
Nest and leathers are as new and the light Oak wood work is really good condition too .
Photo close up from one end .
Cloth has a few stab marks , but in my opinion is OK for a year or so as it has plenty of nap left on it ,
it will of course brush and iron up better when refitted .
Or if you prefer pay extra and have it re-covered with brand new cloth .
As stated all removal and delivery and set up costing is separate from the £500 asking price .
All inquiries to Geoff or Carol at GCL billiards at
Here we have a table for sale that resembles a Riley diner but does not have the raise and fall operation .
it comes with chairs and table top .
The top in my opinion is a three leaf extender top from a normal 1930 /1950s dining table stained and polished to match or it was good match to start with .
and with use has blended in the same patina as the Chairs .
The 6ft Riley table is circa 1910 to 1920 , it has the brass domed coffin screws in the cushions that gives me an idea of date it was manufactured .
Sturdy 6ft table for snooker or pool .
we value the table the top and chairs at £350 which is a good come and buy me price , collection is North London .
you will require a small medium van transit sized or a large VOLVO type Estate car , the legs unbolt form the lower frame .
but with the Chairs the Van is the better option .
The table with the top off and chairs put to one side .
you can see the brass domed coffin screws in the cushions , and yes these type of screws where used in the coffin industry to screw the top of the coffin down .
Typical Riley turned leg for this early period , with brass top pocket plates with leather strip inserts to the face , we normally advise a set of top plate leathers on these when it would be due some re-cover work .
But for now it is very presentable .
you will find you may require cushions on the chairs if you use it for a dining table as this table has no high low adjustment for dining height .
We have to be very Honest when advertising tables so I like to make aware of the fact that this table is a normal height playing table and not a raise and fall Riley diner .
which would be priced around £1000 to £1500 in this state of Honest used play without chairs , so at just £350 with chairs it would be a good alternative.
and for comparison here is a Riley Diner raise and fall system and table , so you fully understand the difference of the two tables .
the table for sale does not have this raise and fall system
This Barley twist Riley diner is worth around £2500 to £3000 without chairs in this fully renovated condition as it is a rare to find model ,
as you can see at £350 our clients table offers good alternative value .
the table top on
The chairs have some Barley twist design going on with the legs and the two end chairs having barley twist back and finials ,
I would say they are a matching set of chairs with the end chairs being the more decorative for the hosts of a dinner evening . typical of a set sold at many household clearance sales .
The chairs are Not high value but a nice touch to include in the package .
the chairs I would say would be the same age as the table top , 1930 /1950s .
altogether an attractive come and get me package for just £350. buyer collects from North London , close to Queens Park Tube Station ,
I will pass on any inquiries to the seller , and give your details to him .
contact Geoff or Carol at GCL billiards by email please to
NOW SOLD SUBJECT TO COLLECTION
We have a client in West Yorkshire who wishes to sell their full size Riley Aristocrat full size snooker table
Please note this table has the standard cushions on and NOT steel block cushions .
But it is very reasonably priced at just £500 .
All the accessories are with the table, light shade , cues and rests, balls triangle and scoreboard
it will require a re-cover , unless you are happy with the cloth that is on it .
turned fluted legs
Pocket openings look around 3.5 to 3.7/8ths at the fall
Polish cushion wood capping’s look in very good condition
If you would like a quote for picking up from ground floor , delivery and assemble on ground floor only then please contact GCL billiards for a quote
also a quote for a re-cover if required .
….. PLEASE NOTE …..The table is in an upstairs location at the moment , but the seller may be able to arrange a dismantle and get downstairs ready for collection ,
this may require a bit more cost to the buyer .
any inquiries to Geoff at GCL Billiards and I will pass on your details to our selling client.
the Table is located in Heckmondwike Yorkshire
Snooker and pool table work used to be a seasonal thing a few years ago
we used to experience a lull or a slack period mid summer and just after Christmas and New year
but if recent years are anything to go by and the fact that Pool is now our number one sport over Snooker in cue sports pastimes .
Then it is no surprise work coming in has no high or low spots , we are not experiencing any lull or slack period in work .
and I give full warning that we cannot take anymore work on until September and that month is starting to fill in as we speak
On the snooker side we have our regular clients and on average visit clubs every year for either a re-stretch of bed cloths or re-covers .
our private home clients we average a visit every 5 years , for service re-level , re-stretch work or major work like re-rubber and re-cover or house move and the table goes too .
We get some tough job’s too like fitting abnormal rubber size due to clients requirements to unconventional block work
We are often re-rubbering and opening or closing up pocket openings in the process of a re-rubber
but a lot of our work is now taken up with the popular sport of Pool
many club’s have extended their pool lounges , and installed more pool tables than snooker tables these days .
some have a few American 9ft 9 ball tables too
We do a high volume of pool table maintenance these days .
and when it comes to pool tables , the lower cost in cloth and labour per full size mean they have work done in large quantities , and more regular .
sometimes all the tables in the room are re-covered in one go .
some club’s have a more balanced view and ratio of pool to snooker is pretty even
This club used to have all snooker now they just have three , and 7 uk pool , and one Chinese 9 ball table .
their is always the exception when it is FREE to play in with your Holiday fee at Butlins .
But since this photo 2 have gone and two more are in the pipe line to go , as improvements to form a sports lounge is implimented
we may see some American pool tables in the future as they look to improve the different venues in Butlins .
I am informed they may have plans to turn this American 9 ball hall into a 9 table UK pool hall .
and move some of these tables over to the Sports bar / Snooker room part .
they say this at Butlins every year for the last 10 years , but the time will come that it will happen .
now and again we get one of these to renovate , not so easy to work on as it is all in miniature
some cushions come like this
we refurb to this , using larger rubber .
and the end result after a re-rubber , see we really know our stuff !
after 42 years personal experience Geoff Large of GCL billiards is one of the best fitters in the country , not that there are a lot of experienced fitters about these days .
due to none training up and retirement , the specialist fitters are more hard to find .
and it is going to get worse as in 6 years time I may even retire .
Below is a few photos of the type of work that we come across .
just some of the bad workmanship I come across in the next few photo’s
these are typical bad workmanship that I come across .
as I have said I am now taking bookings for September , I am worth waiting for , all I can say is the above bad workmanship is still being done out there ,
it is pot luck if you get a fitter with high standards and the ethics that have been passed down from fitter to fitter in my history .
so please wait for us to become available and book early for work .
Today I have been over to Beeston in Nottingham to a club that I have been working on their tables for over 38 years .
They relocated to an old building in the town when they built the new Tesco’s around 12 to 14 years ago .
both tables are Burroughs and watts steel match cushioned circa 1920s ,
Rigidus frame model where the centre legs are closer together and not equal spacing with end legs .
Both tables will be re-covered in Strachan 6811 tournament 30 oz cloth .
the last time I did them was in 2013 so they have lasted close on 5 years .
this club does not get as much use as other club’s , the relocation took them from a prime spot near the high Road to the outskirts of town .
and the car park is now very small compared to the old club , where you could park up let the Wife go shopping while you have a frame or two of snooker .
you may note all the cue cases on the wall ,Not many club’s do this now .
Members have a hook and sometimes a chain they can interlink each case and padlock it to the chain .
Many club’s do not like their walls cluttered like this , but this club still has this facility for members to store their cues on the club premises .