I have Been over to Derby this week to a clients house .
My client bought a table and had it installed around two years ago .
although he did not complain about the match pockets being tight , his guests who played there often did .
so he contacted GCL billiards to open the pockets up and at the same time refresh the playing surface .
As you can see it is a genuine two bolt hole per leg face Riley Aristocrat , but it did not have adjustable slate bearers .
this is what we retro fitted to the underside of the table to make sure we could adjust the centre of the slate and get any slate bowing or dipping out .
Bed cloth fitted , a lightweight 29oz version of the popular Strachan 6811 tournament .
we had spent a bit of time making sure the table was level and the slate joints where skimmed and blended in .
our client was complaining that the joints where showing through the old cloth , we did not wish this to happen to the new fitted cloth .
we reshaped the corner pocket openings from tight WPBSA template size to Snooker Control council size , around 1/8th opened up .
note this is a steel cushioned professional standard table .
my client had made some WPBSA templates out of soft wood , as you can see we have altered the angle into the corner slightly each side
the older Billiards snooker control council templates ( B&SCC ) where used to make the pockets more approachable for the average to good player
these are not club Bucket sized pockets and they still measured around 3.5 inch at the fall , and these B&SCC templates date from June 1990 .
As you can see the template fits nice and snug , we kept the flat profile in place when cutting back the rubber , and there is minimal undercut .
the undercut template fitted snug against the flat face of the corner and aligned perfectly with the 3.5 radius cut falls of the slate .
the middles where also brought in line with the older B&SCC templates
as you can see we also fitted new Riley match pocket leathers and superior grade nets , and we fitted plastic ring ball rails and removed the old brass ones which where splitting the nets .
I always recommend to Snooker club owners to remove all metal ring ball rails and replace with lower cost option plastic ring ball rails as the nets last much longer .
and it is the same in Private houses , my client also sanded a round nose to the ring net plastic to make even more kind to the ring nets .
they also hang at the correct angle when a ball falls into the net then through the net ring hole and into the correct angle of slope , this is crucial to a longer lasting net .
the finished table
the plastic ring ball rails .
I feel we have solved our clients needs and not ruined his table by putting large bucket club pockets on there , they are still 3.5 inch at the fall ,
but they will take a ball much better in all 6 pockets .
The WPBSA plates are very unforgiving to most players , and you can soon lose interest in playing on a table with tight pockets .
there is a reason the pro players have that tight pocket , they can through years of practice and commitment play at a high level on these tight pockets , but the average to good player would be much better off with the older pre 1990 B&SCC template size .
A story I do like to tell now and again is in 1982 I was watching a young player on the next table I was working on , playing on pockets that where nearly 4 inch wide at the fall in a club in Kirkby in Ashfield Nottinghamshire .
I said you would never make it as a pro playing on such large buckets for pockets .
That young man was a 16 year old just left School Gary Wilkinson and he was ranked at world No5 in 1991/92 season
Gary became a pro 5 years after I said he would not make the grade , just goes to show that bigger pockets do give confidence in playing and keeping a young man that interested , that he went on to play on tournament pockets that where in those days sized by the same B&SCC templates I am still using today .
From 1990 onward’s the pockets where closed up a bit to around 3.3/8ths at the drop and a new governing body took control of the pocket size this is the WPBSA templates .
IF you are having problems with pocket openings you may decide to go through what a few people are doing and actually open them up a touch .
I have done many job’s like this over 42 the years I have been fitting tables .
A standard none steel cushion opening up of pocket
A burroughs and watts steel cushion set what it looks like under the cloth
and the same Burroughs and watts after I had completed the table alterations of pocket size .
trimming rubber back to alter pocket size .
sometimes I can just peel back the cushion cloth alter the pocket opening and put the cloth back on , but only if the fitter before did a decent enough job on the re-cover
if not you would probably have to have the cushions re-covered .
it is really best to have this work done at the same time as a re-cover .
as I have said 3.5 inch or even 3.7/8ths of an inch at the fall is not large club pockets .
this is what I call bucket pockets , at nearly 4 inch at the fall !
3.5 inch at the fall for comparison
We have a client who wishes to sell their 8ft three section slate bed with bolted into slate cushion and 6 legs Snooker table
offers around £500 is what he is looking for .
Aylesbury area is the location of the table .
the table looks like it could do with a re-cover and maybe new set of pockets nets and leathers to bring up to date .
I can vouch that K&H is a very good make , one alteration i would recommend is that it is fitted with a set of adjustable slate supports as it is lacking these .
cloth faded and pockets discolored but is it is playable as it is .
and worth the money being asked .
a photo of underside , three section slate but could do with some adjustable slate supports to make much better for keeping level .
this is the improvement of what I mean about adjustable slate supports or muntins .
these wind up to and support the slate from sagging and recommended to have fitted if you have the table moved and set up again .
bolted cushions into slate make for a much better firmer cushion and good bounce .
this table is made just alike a full size table and build quality is very good .
all inquiries to Geoff Large at GCL billiards
TABLE IS SOLD SOLD SOLD
I did have a few interested in this table
which for some would be a fantastic buy with the cloth refitted , but the buyer who is negotiating the sale at the moment is going to have to upgrade it with new rubber and new match cloth and match openings to current professional WPBSA templates .
around 6 people where inquiring about the table but only one firm offer was made last week and my seller client has accepted .
I still have one person who is looking for one and lives in Bali , but they will arrange dismantle and shipping
is there another one out there in as good condition ?
Offers please to
We have a client who wishes to sell their fathers BCE Westbury in the Basildon area .
we can only describe from the photo’s supplied that the table is in fantastic almost unused condition .
as can be seen from the following photo’s .
superb condition cloth and polish of woodwork .
the corner pocket opening of steel cushions .
Can you see any ball track marks in the corner of the pocket opening ….so little used they have not had chance to wear in yet !
if you look closely you can just see them starting to appear.
Table will come with all accessories , including heavy duty fitted dust cover light fitting and scoreboard .
long tackle and cues in round rack
there area few BCE copies around , but this one is genuine top of the range Westbury with those all important Steel cushions .
all inquiries to Geoff Large at GCL billiards
I have had an inquiry for a BCE Westbury full size steel cushioned table at a reasonable price .
if anyone has one for sale , then please contact me so I can pass on the information to my Client .
Genuine BCE westbury only please .
Condition of woodwork is important , but things like rubber cloth nets and leathers could be replaced , the polish however and condition of woodwork should be good .
also slates have to be in good order and not dished or broken and all bolts inserts in slate present and good to go .
also frieze bolts and slot plates present and correct and all pocket plate bolts .
These BCE westbury tables where very popular in the 1980’s and 90’s ,
they where made in their thousands so someone should have one for sale ,
But condition and location is everything .
There are some copies around but my client is after a genuine one .
This full sized Billiard table is based in the North East of England
it has a very interesting plaque and an accompanying autographed by C Dawson photo .
the table was manufactured by Birmingham based Padmore’s . ( now part of the Thurston / Clare group of companies based in Liverpool )
on one end there is a plaque commemorating a Billiards 9000 up exhibition match between H W STEVENSON and C DAWSON in NOVEMBER 1906
you may also note Henry Murton billiard table maker plaque , on frame , this was put on when the cushions where remodeled a few years later .
A signed C Dawson autograph is also included along with this photo of the two players .
The faded Henry Murton of Newcastle , cushion modifying plaque on the other end of the table .
A nice round reeded globe leg , with lion head knee panels and a lion head in the centre of each slide in cushion panel .
Above shot of cloth condition , looks like it had a recent recover not long ago .
but maybe nets and leathers could do with upgrading .
maybe returning to billiard bag nets if someone wanted to make it how it was in the day of 1906 .
lions head in each knee panel
The table looks like it could do with a total re polishing to bring back up to a good playing order , maybe new rubber and re cloth and bag nets .
this table would make a great table for someone who is into historic Billiard / snooker collectibles .
it is one of those tables that should not be scrapped or recycled because of the historic interest .
With many tables going down that route of re-cycling , it would be a crime to send this the same way , so our clients are willing to listen to very reasonable offers for the table ,
the table belongs to a Parish council , so as you would expect the money would come in handy for them to use around the borough for good causes .
please contact Geoff at GCL billiards , he will put you in touch with the person in charge of selling the table , and guide you to a price to offer that is fair to both parties .
this is a good opportunity to pick up a table with good history provenance at a low reasonable price.
I will be asking Peter Ainsworth a local Billiards Historian here in the UK , for his views and if he can shed any light on the history of the billiards match played on this table , I am sure he will have it logged down somewhere .
DAY date and Time , prize money and attendance figures , maybe it was UK tour ,of these billiard players , also history of the players themselves , and who reffed the match ?
We have expanded our pool table rental portfolio by fitting two more tables into a club in Nuneaton later this week .
allthough you could buy a table in almost any colour combination , our rental tables are installed as Black pearl cabinets mechanical coin operations bodies and side doors .
Factory cloth is changed at 6 months and we then re-cover in strachan 6811 28 oz all wool napped cloth .
If you would like to take out one of our excellent rental packages for a Brand New supreme winner 7×4 , speak to Geoff Large at GCL Billiards
our two recover a year package is the best value around and people often say how do you do it for the price !
Let us explain why renting is just as good as owning and maybe even better with tax concessions and recover options and upgrades to new tables after 5 to 6 years .
you never need to worry that your table is looking rough or the worst table in the neighborhoods pubs or clubs , players will be clambering to play on your new GCL Billiards rental table .
because they know it is going to be re-covered every 6 months and new balls and cue’s every year , plus an extra set of Premier Aramith match balls at install .
We will be supplying , Two Brand new Supreme winner coin op tables converted to Free Play for this client who prefers to charge by the light usage / Hour charge .
We only do our rental tables in coin op with cue ball return to baulk line end .
we can take out the coin operation and just have free play , but you still get the cue ball return to baulk end
this is something you do not get with normal none coin op winners , all the balls come out at rack end .
and the cue ball does not separate .
We do prefer to keep our Rental pool table’s on Mechanical straight six coin operation , but for clubs wishing to charge by the hour we can convert them so that the balls bypass the coin operation ,
but still retains the 1/7/8ths cue ball to 2 inch colour balls separation slot .
our Winner tables are the latest design with die cast chrome metal corners rather than the older models with chrome plastic corners
you can tell the difference when you see them . also the trim line between cushion and upper surround is an alloy thin one and not the raised plastic type that no one likes .
the cabinet finish is Black pearl satin , rather than the older black ash wood grain which goes shiny and reflects the above lighting into your eyes .
Chrome metal Die cast corner plates with raised lettering
This is a club in Coventry that has three of our tables out on rental contract with two re-covers a year allowance .
winter and summer league starts off with a fresh re-cloth .
our tables have the superior Strachan 6811 cloth fitted, this is not thick slow club cloth but a 28oz version of tournament cloth especially made for pool table use .
all 100% pure new wool and no man made fibers in sight , these cloths are very good for cue ball control , there are faster cloths ,
but when it comes to all round play this cloth is the best to use .
Green badged tables are the latest tables with Black pearl finish cabinets
The choice of professional players , and best colour for rental tables .
Here we have a 8ft snooker table complete with balls and cues …offers invited
our client would like a quick sale so a reasonable price will secure it , buyer to arrange collection .
You can arrange for GCL billiards to give a quote to pick this table up and deliver it .
the table is a one piece slate bed table with a 4 leg frame in solid mahogany .
There is also several sets of balls with the table
and rests and cues
All inquires to Geoff at GCL billiards .