I have put these photo’s up for anyone looking for a 8ft Billiard / Snooker dining table.
The table is being sold as fully renovated by Brian and Peter at cheshire billiards , Brian has been a big help in setting my buisness up .
An 8ft dining table is rare to find for sale these days , most made where the 6ft and 7ft versions , this is a genuine Riley which has been fully stripped and repolished re rubber and re cover , the score board has been manufactured by Brian and Peters firm Cheshire Billiards , this scoreboard is an exact reproduction of a genuine Riley score board , and has a dual purpose , a concealed scoreboard , and a photo display when not in use .
the table is circa 1930s , Cheshire billiards have carefully left the original transfer of Riley still on the end cushion panel .
*Note* the pull out lifting handles on this 8ft , this is to make lifting up to playing height much easier , the smaller 6ft and 7ft versions did not have this feature , and many people used to lift the table up to playing height by the pocket plates , which damaged the table. you should always lift with these handles , of if the smaller table put youre hands under the end cushion , never lift by the pocket plate.
priced at £4995 and in oak , this table would make an ideal Christmas treat for the Family and a fantastic Dining table for the Home .
anyone interested please contact Brian or Peter at cheshire billiards 01724 852359
please inform them you spotted it on GCL BILLIARDS web site.
I am not on commision just returning a favoir for the help Brian has given me.
A dual height 6ft x 3ft Billiard dining table made by Rileys in 1933 , GCL BILLIARDS renovated the bed and cushions in 6811 Tournament cloth with new nets and leathers , plus a complete re- rubber in 1/2 x 1/2 inch L shape rubber , regreased the rise and fall lifters , and also refelted the undersides of the 4 table top leafs , and to round it off retipped the cue’s and supplied a set of pool balls, a complete overhaul of the table which had not been touched since 1933 when the table was manufactured by Riley.
The reason for dual lifting was to dine off in the low position and to play in the uplifted position.
The client bought this table in the 1960s for £12.50p where he rescued it from some students who where not treating it with respect , that would be around £650 in todays wages , the table did have a peak to value around 15 to 20 years ago when they where getting £2.500 for a 6ft version , today they have dropped to around £1500 to £2000 renovated depending on leg design and wood used mahogany / oak , some do still fetch nearer the £2500 if they are of the rare model such as serpentine top design .
This one has the turned and fluted leg , the rubber was dated 1933 when we stripped it down and being as no other tack holes in the bed or cushions we know it had never been recovered since 1933. earlier models had buttons or Brass head coffin screws in place of the slide in panel of this later design .
The most sought after size is an 8ft which had two pull out handles at each end to help lift the table upto playing height , these 8fts in pristine condition are priced upto £4995.
photo 1 the top 4 table top leafs
photo 2 the adjustable leveling mechanism
photo 3 the finished Re cover and Re rubber
photo4 corner pocket opening showing a 1.3/4 inch ball , the table will take upto 1.7/8ths balls
A riley diner lifting mechanism with adjustable level knurled wheel , the thread has been regreased as they had become very stiff to adjust .
This week we are that busy that we have to work on Saturday and Sunday ,
we start the week off on Saturday with a Pool table sale and delivery ,
on Sunday a match table with steel blocks recover in Hainsworth match cloth and new nets and leathers ,in Nottinghamshire
Monday another match table with steel block cushions recover in 6811 T strachan and nets and leathers ,in Lincolnshire
Tuesday , strip down and load a full size table for London and work on Riley dining cushions re rubber in the workshop , in Sandiacre.
Wednesday A re- rubber full size cushions in Derby
Thursday Recover full size cushions in Derby and finish Riley dining cushions off in workshop
Friday , Riley dining table recover in Derby.
you may note that we do not recover the cushions on the same day as a re rubber if useing UK made northern rubber , this is because I like to leave over night for the glue to realy bond , this prevents the rubber being pushed off the wooden block it is glued to when you tension the cloth over it as we recover the cushion .
Some of the lower cost import rubber has a canvas back to it and this can be recovered in the same day as a re rubber . as the canvas backing tends to bond quicker than Northern rubber which has no canvas backing , I always recommend UK made Northern rubber made in Retford Nottinghamshire, rather than imported rubber as it lasts much longer , upto 25 years before the next re rubber . imported rubber can go off within only 5 years use.
Yesterday we completed a re-location of a full size snooker table from Mansfield to Lincoln, the client is highly delighted with the work , and he is delighted that he found the table at a very reasonable price and local to him through our search for sale system which is in our blog section.
If you are looking for a table , be it a full size like this one or a 3/4 or an 8ft quality made snooker dining table , then we have all these for sale direct from the seller , no middle men fees you deal direct with the seller , all we ask is you consider GCL BILLIARDS for any relocating work and any renovations and spares etc .
1st photo of the table in it’s Mansfield home , before dismantle and any work to cushion , Re rubber etc .
on installation 2nd photo , we where met with a house that was being renovated and extended , with three steps down from one level to another , we managed with a little help from the Builders who where still on site to get the slates down the three steps.
a photo of the table before leveling and reclothing , note the huega floor tiles , we always recommend these for snooker rooms as you can replace the carpet tiles but never have to replace the unwalked on tiles under the table , saving you the costly expense of having a table dismantled every time you want to replace a carpet or floor covering .
The 3rd photo of Completed install of table , which had the following work carried out , New Northern rubber fitted to modern template openings , New 6811 tournament west of England strachan cloth , New nets leathers and ball rails , one full set of cushion buttons turned , plus a new set of accessories of Scoreboard , 5 cues ,2 push on telescopic extenders , 2 sets of Aramith balls of 1 set engraved pool and 1 set of snooker premier quality , heavy duty dust cover , all rests and hooks , New dowsing Billiard Iron , pure bristle brush , 2x free standing chrome cue racks etc , and a new set of modern lighting .
Today I have re-covered a local pool table in Derby with strachan cloth , the owners had the last cloth torn ,and they had only just had the table re-covered by a firm up north in american speed cloth , which the players of the pool team did not like.
I got there to find the cloth had been fitted correctly and to a high standard and the rip/tear was no fault of the fitting , but they had left the rails system with years of muck and grime still on them and the inside of the table with bottle tops years of dust and staples from previous re-covers , the grease of sweat and dust build up on the rails was causing balls to stick , but there was another more serious problem with the cushions they had fitted that they had done 4 weeks ago so read on .
It was one of the worst cases I had seen of not making sure that the table was left in a servicable use you have to take into account that the last recover was only 4 weeks ago ? , the next photo is after I had vacummed and washed all the rail system out prior to putting the slate back in .
the owner had told me just before I started to strip the cloth off the cushions that they had paid over £300 for a recover and brand new cushions , I had a shock for them , the cushions where second hand and had been re-covered at least 4 times in their life . the photo shows at least 4 sets of staple holes .
Today we have been working at Skegness Butlins .
Every November we are to take the American 9ft Pool tables down and store in a back room , the room is then used for other busy weekend events such as 18 to 30s weekend , or 70s /80s theme weekends etc .
as you can see from the photo they where recovered in Plain purple cloth on the last recover.
At the end of November we shall be putting the tables back into the room and then recovering in ARTSCAPE cloth , this is a printed designed cloth , that can also be custom made to incorporate a clients name or venue , in this case it will have the wording BUTLINS also printed on the cloth .
We will on completion take another Photo of the pool tables with this new smart designed cloth , in the meantime have a look at these sample tables which have had the Artscape touch .
Not all tables are the modern type that we undertake to recover , many tables from the 1970s/80s are still going strong in pubs and clubs , plus private houses .
Many people use the word Baize to describe the cloth on cue sports tables , this in fact is wrong as the cloth is simply called napped Billiard Cloth , Baize is a cloth that is put on notice boards or card tables .
Although many call the cloth used on snooker and pool tables baize and in dictionary’s it also refers to snooker or billiard cloth as being baize ,
Also in the dictionary it also states that snooker is played on a snooker table , but in fact there is no such thing as a snooker table as it was Billiards that was first played and so they should be refered as BILLIARD TABLES , and you play the game of snooker on a billiard table . nothing has changed in the design from a billiard table apart from pocket plates and cushions over the years , apart from that the design is a billiard table .
But as many now refer to them as snooker tables the wording has stuck , so we now call them Snooker tables . and so it is the same with the cloth many people refer to it as Baize.
The word baize often used to describe cue sports cloth is just a metonymy which means it is a thing or a concept not called by its real name . look at the link for the manufacturers description , you will note they state Billiard cloth and not billiard baize.
This week I had a lady phone me up and ask me to RE BAISE her pool table which was badly faded from sun light .
At GCL Billiards we aim to prolong the lifespan of the older tables ,just like this Hazel Grove superleague which is still in remarkable conditon cabinet wise , the table is located in a conservatory and the cloth is faded to almost yellow creamy white .
The clients bought the table many years ago second hand for their sons 18th Birthday and he is in his 30s now .
after a Re-cover in Strachan cloth the table looks almost new . the hazel grove Super league was the rolls royce of pool tables during the 70s and 80s , they are still manufactured today as a traditional turned leg cabinet design .