The snooker forum has changed it’s web address for 28 days only due to shut down of old site , but will be back on the old site soon , this is one of the best snooker forums for reading that any keen cue sports player would want to visit check it out www.thesnookerforum.co.uk
it will be back to .com within 28 days so I have been informed.
It is not all about new tables that we work on , I had a phone call last month for a Pool table re-rubber / re- cover near Derby , and the client sent me a photo of the table , I have worked on this type of table many years ago in the 1970s , but have forgot the maker ? it could be a US billiards make ?
I have just completed the work on the table , but due to my batteries on the camera being flat could not take a photo of the finished table after renovation of rubber and new cloth , the client is going to send a photo though later this week. (and here it is) .
This table would get most pool table fitters in a flap as the top is bolted down useing side bars which are very awkward to work on and get to . I recalled how to take the table apart and work on the cushions from past experience of this type of table , you have to be realy spot on when bolting the top back to the slate to make sure all the pockets align up with the slate falls . also this table has american angle rubber not the UK L shape like on modern tables .
If you have an old table from the past , do not be afraid to ask if we can renovate it , some parts may not be available anymore but we can prob get around this , but rubber and cloth plus pocket liners will not be a problem , and some people do like the retro look of the 1960s / 70s / and 80s tables , like the French made Rene pierre , or the Italian Rutigliani , or even the later Alca tables which where made in Oldham , Geoff has experience on all these makes of tables.
We are getting very popular in the 4 counties of Nottinghamshire , Lincolnshire, Derbyshire and Leicestershire and also parts of Yorkshire for a local firm to carry out pool and snooker maintenance , demand for GCL billiards experienced Billiard fitting is on the up in the run up to Christmas and into January , Bookings for a Re-cover or new cushion rubber on pool tables is our most popular work even though we are fully time served billiards fitters trained for full size snooker tables, and you can be assured all our workmanship is carried out in a professional manner to NBSA standards , many of our clients giving testimonials of our work .
we are experienced in all types of tables , from very early 1970s made pool tables to the modern tables of today such as the Supreme , DPT , Omega , and Sam tables as well as the Hazel grove super leagues of past and present design .
we offer the best recover and re-rubber service , second to none and do not overcharge for this service , our fitting team have over 37 years experience in maintaining Snooker and Pool tables , we use our recommended by professional Players, Strachan pool cloth, in grades of 777 and 6811 pool or 6811 tournament , also american speed cloth , all in a variety of colours , we can also offer Artscape cloth with a custom design , a logo for example , youre local sports team , or company logo ?
so if you have a pool table that is ready to be revamped to a high standard , then please contact GCL BILLIARDS for youre table to get that professional Re-cover or Re-rubber ,
Many cue sports clubs as well as pub landlords and Private housholds use GCL BILLIARDS to maintain their prized cue sports tables . we go beyond what normal pool table maintenance firms do , always making sure youre table is cleaned out and level and ready for play before we leave , we are not a hit and run firm we do not have a timescale or have to cover as many tables in a day as some fitters are required to do , we aim to stay in the cue sports trade maintaining tables for many years to come , and only good workmanship and good feedback will guarantee that .
I have to make something very clear , an enquiry came in the other day to move a Full sized snooker table and a provisional date was set that the client required , but it was not a confirmed booking , in the meantime the following day someone else booked that date for Confirmed work to recover two pool tables
Later on that day the person who had provisionally booked came back to me to make the booking confirmed , when I had informed him that in the meantime that same day was booked out to someone else he became rather cross with me . I did offer two more dates a day before or two days after the date he required but they where no good to him .
Although he made it plain to me at the time of his enquiry that he was also speaking to other Billiard firms for quotes .
So this is how it is , if a confirmed date is not set , and you are just making enquiries for quotes and references and provisonal booking of a date and you also make it plain you are also speaking to other firms to quote for the same job, then please be aware you may provisionally book a day for future work on youre cue sports table until confirmed , but in the meantime if you have not confirmed that date by booking GCL BILLIARDS , then if that day is required for a definate booking of work by another client , then they get priority of that day .
In the Cue sports trade , we have to make sure that we have continuous work , and by leaving dates to one side when work is there to do on the promise of maybe we will go with you , then this is not going to happen , I have to be pretty clear on this from now on because of this recent scenario , as we do not want to be accused of letting people down when this is clearly not the case. if the person had confirmed he was going with GCL BILLIARDS at the time of enquiry instead of saying he was also thinking of a Birmingham firm to do the work then he would have got that date , but by leaving it open on a half promise of maybe I will go with you maybe I will not , then I will always take confirmed work over a provisional maybe bookings.
I hope clients will understand my stance on this , especialy if you run a business youreself , you can understand why it is important to take confirmed paying work rather than maybe work , after all it is what we are in business for, to work .
At the end of the day my Morgage lender is pleased to see my confirmed cheque at the end of each month rather than maybe I will pay you at the end of the month .
I have put these photo’s up for anyone looking for a 8ft Billiard / Snooker dining table.
The table is being sold as fully renovated by Brian and Peter at cheshire billiards , Brian has been a big help in setting my buisness up .
An 8ft dining table is rare to find for sale these days , most made where the 6ft and 7ft versions , this is a genuine Riley which has been fully stripped and repolished re rubber and re cover , the score board has been manufactured by Brian and Peters firm Cheshire Billiards , this scoreboard is an exact reproduction of a genuine Riley score board , and has a dual purpose , a concealed scoreboard , and a photo display when not in use .
the table is circa 1930s , Cheshire billiards have carefully left the original transfer of Riley still on the end cushion panel .
*Note* the pull out lifting handles on this 8ft , this is to make lifting up to playing height much easier , the smaller 6ft and 7ft versions did not have this feature , and many people used to lift the table up to playing height by the pocket plates , which damaged the table. you should always lift with these handles , of if the smaller table put youre hands under the end cushion , never lift by the pocket plate.
priced at £4995 and in oak , this table would make an ideal Christmas treat for the Family and a fantastic Dining table for the Home .
anyone interested please contact Brian or Peter at cheshire billiards 01724 852359
please inform them you spotted it on GCL BILLIARDS web site.
I am not on commision just returning a favoir for the help Brian has given me.
A dual height 6ft x 3ft Billiard dining table made by Rileys in 1933 , GCL BILLIARDS renovated the bed and cushions in 6811 Tournament cloth with new nets and leathers , plus a complete re- rubber in 1/2 x 1/2 inch L shape rubber , regreased the rise and fall lifters , and also refelted the undersides of the 4 table top leafs , and to round it off retipped the cue’s and supplied a set of pool balls, a complete overhaul of the table which had not been touched since 1933 when the table was manufactured by Riley.
The reason for dual lifting was to dine off in the low position and to play in the uplifted position.
The client bought this table in the 1960s for £12.50p where he rescued it from some students who where not treating it with respect , that would be around £650 in todays wages , the table did have a peak to value around 15 to 20 years ago when they where getting £2.500 for a 6ft version , today they have dropped to around £1500 to £2000 renovated depending on leg design and wood used mahogany / oak , some do still fetch nearer the £2500 if they are of the rare model such as serpentine top design .
This one has the turned and fluted leg , the rubber was dated 1933 when we stripped it down and being as no other tack holes in the bed or cushions we know it had never been recovered since 1933. earlier models had buttons or Brass head coffin screws in place of the slide in panel of this later design .
The most sought after size is an 8ft which had two pull out handles at each end to help lift the table upto playing height , these 8fts in pristine condition are priced upto £4995.
photo 1 the top 4 table top leafs
photo 2 the adjustable leveling mechanism
photo 3 the finished Re cover and Re rubber
photo4 corner pocket opening showing a 1.3/4 inch ball , the table will take upto 1.7/8ths balls
A riley diner lifting mechanism with adjustable level knurled wheel , the thread has been regreased as they had become very stiff to adjust .
This week we are that busy that we have to work on Saturday and Sunday ,
we start the week off on Saturday with a Pool table sale and delivery ,
on Sunday a match table with steel blocks recover in Hainsworth match cloth and new nets and leathers ,in Nottinghamshire
Monday another match table with steel block cushions recover in 6811 T strachan and nets and leathers ,in Lincolnshire
Tuesday , strip down and load a full size table for London and work on Riley dining cushions re rubber in the workshop , in Sandiacre.
Wednesday A re- rubber full size cushions in Derby
Thursday Recover full size cushions in Derby and finish Riley dining cushions off in workshop
Friday , Riley dining table recover in Derby.
you may note that we do not recover the cushions on the same day as a re rubber if useing UK made northern rubber , this is because I like to leave over night for the glue to realy bond , this prevents the rubber being pushed off the wooden block it is glued to when you tension the cloth over it as we recover the cushion .
Some of the lower cost import rubber has a canvas back to it and this can be recovered in the same day as a re rubber . as the canvas backing tends to bond quicker than Northern rubber which has no canvas backing , I always recommend UK made Northern rubber made in Retford Nottinghamshire, rather than imported rubber as it lasts much longer , upto 25 years before the next re rubber . imported rubber can go off within only 5 years use.