Cueball Club Derby , re-cover in Hainsworth Match on table 1 ….an insight to what it takes to fit match cloth to a full size snooker table

I have been over to the Cueball Club on Mansfield Road in Derby today to finish off the work of three full size re-covers on their snooker tables .
today I was working on table 1 in the corner of the room .

cushion stripped and recovered in the thicker Hainsworth Smart for better wear on the cushions , I find that fitting Smart cloth to cushion is much better for wear  ,than the thinner match cloth which easily splits on the facing edge and down the middle pocket falls where the ball makes contact with the wood end of the cushions and does not last long .
so we have gone with match cloth on the bed and smart cloth on the cushions , my client at the Cueball    ( Danny )   preferring Hainsworth over Strachan cloth .

here I have stripped the bed cloth off the slate bed and I am starting to fit the match cloth to the table .
stretched at each end then the middle falls are stretched  and tacked .
at this point I have to fit a large clamp to each side of the middle fall to pull each corner out , this prevents me ripping the cloth , and getting wrinkles in the centre slate fall .

Match cloth whether it is Hainsworth or the Strachan no10 is one of the hardest cloths to stretch out .
the cloth is thinner yet it is very unforgiving when it has to form around corners or falls like a centre slate fall .
thus the clamp is used to help things along .
I have wet the centre slate fall , this helps to form the cloth into the fall and look better , the cloth will shrink a bit into the fall as it drys .
you may see some odd fading’s on the TV table around the centre falls this is Starch , I prefer the old fashioned water damping rather than the starch for fitting wool napped cloths .
the damp cloth is also better to grip than shiny dry cloth so I keep my hands damp at all times when stretching cloth on to gain ta very tightly fitted cloth .

with the corner slate fall area pulled and tacked down and the ends stretched , you can see the wrinkles have been pulled out so it is now OK to take the clamp off .
you have to relocate the clamp at each side of the centre fall you as are pulling towards the corner pocket fall , so 4 operations of clamping and unclamping and pulling out of wrinkles .

as you can see a p erect fitted bed cloth around the centre slate falls , this is the hardest part of any stretching and fitting of bed cloths on snooker tables .

a corner pocket opening .

the centre pocket opening inwards view from inside of the table playing surface shows not wrinkles .

and the same on the corner pocket opening viewed inside the tables playing area towards the pocket .

the completed table 1  ready for play .

10ft Thurston vintage billiards /snooker table for sale pre 1890 ….fantastic value at just £500

PRIVATE SALE direct from selling client …..no middlemen fees !

We have a client in Leicestershire who has a 10ft Billiards table for sale at a reasonable £500 asking price
The Thurston made table comes with a nice period scoreboard and set of balls and cues  ,  and is circa pre 1890 and maybe as old as 1870’s

as you can see the table has some nice figured mahogany flaming to cushions
although in my opinion the table may require a re-cover and maybe re-rubber depending on bounce left in cushions , but this would be down to buyers preference .
I would recommend an inspection to put your mind at rest and to decide what work if any you would require if any ? but the cloth looks faded .

Side shot of the table showing it is a 6 legged type , the cushions buttons are missing but a wood turner could make some of these to hide the cushion bolts
the table being pre 1890 has the brass finger top plate pocket plates .
all Billiard tables where top plates until the manufacturers started to make them inserted from the end of cushion type or hidden fixing type around 1895 .
I think this table has a 4 piece slate bed , I have re-covered it once in the past , and maybe fitted those nets and leathers for the previous owner of this table a well known professional County Cricket player .
The new owners would like to use the room for other purpose and I have valued the table at £500 for a quick sale , I am sure you will agree £500 for such a nice period 10ft Billiard table is well worth it .

matching period scoreboard also included in the sale , all enquiries to

c.large@btinternet.com

I will pass on any serious inquiries to the seller and you are then free to choose who you wish to remove the table and transport it to it’s new home once sold  .

if you would like a quote for this removal and transport and any other work you may require like a re-cover , then please contact Geoff at the same email address

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For sale solid OAK BURROUGHS & WATTS steel block cushioned was £1500…………PRICE REDUCTION April 28th 2017 to just £850….SOLD SUBJECT TO ?

Table is sold subject to being paid for and collected in July ….the buyer got a good table at a very reasonable price for a Burroughs and watts period Steel block table .

 

This table has just been reduced from £1500 to just £850 ,this table has steel cushions just like the tables on TV that Selby and Higgins are playing on in this years world championship final
these cushions alone could fetch £850 for any who is wishing to convert a standard table to a steel cushioned match table .

Not often a table of this build quality comes up for sale on the second hand market
this solid Oak burroughs and watts bulbous fluted leg with steel cushions in very good condition is being sold by our client direct to the buyer
The price is £1500, this will not include pickup or delivery and setup costs , if you require a quote from GCL billiards then ask Geoff giving your post code and if you require a ground floor or upstairs or cellar installation , Ground floor is just a two man operation , upstairs or down stairs would require more men.
This Burroughs and watts table was manufactured by the older B&Watts firm and has nothing to do with a firm trading in the same name and using the History of the Name as a foothold in the market .
oak burroughs and watts chris wells end arrowflight plate
The new Firm using the Burroughs and watts name has no history links to the old firm which was bought out by Rileys in the 1960s , the name then turned to Riley Burwatt and then the Burwatt name was dropped to go back to just Riley .
Riley burwat cue badge
above a photo of a 1967 Riley Burwat cue , Burwat was added to Riley name and used for around 7 years before being dropped .

I do not know how the new B&Watts firm got to using that old name but this happens a lot in moderns times . so please do not ask too many questions to this modern firm, on the history of this table as all records were bombed by the luftwaffe at Soho Square  in the second world war of all their tables that they made,  and no records of serial numbers for these older well made tables exist ,
I was told even Riley destroyed many B&Watts records when they took over the firm in 1967 when they took over the firm .
Without any existing records on table frame numbers no one can say what year this table was made , but guessing from the leg design and oak wood I would say any time between 1920 and 1960s this table will have Welsh 2 inch slate and Burroughs and watts steel cushions .
what we do know is Burroughs and watts was established in 1836 and is one of the oldest firms behind firms such as Thurston and before them Gillows .
and that The Burroughs and watts steel cushions patent was claimed around 1895 to 1897 .
these steel cushions are still used on the modern match tables as seen at the Crucible in sheffield , sadly they are now made in China as the Star table used today is of Chinese manufacture .
Why a UK table could still not be used is a sign of the times , Sponsorship is more important these days and Star have the deepest pockets at the moment.

Oak Burroughs and watts £1500 chris wells whole table
This table has the much sought after steel cushions , just look at the size of those large turned fluted legs .
You can see from this photo that this table was built out of quality 1/4 sawn solid oak timber .
oak burroughs and watts chris wells end corner shot
a more close photo up of the oak timber frame and cushion surrounds with oak turned buttons all present covering the cushion bolts .
oak burroughs and watts chris wells side end
the table will come with all the accessories of balls cues long rests and other x rests , and light shade canopy.
plus the scoreboard on the far wall .
The table is located close to Sandhurst near Farnborough , and the seller requires £1500 for it plus dismantle and removal charges .

Daylight and Soft white Tubes in Table lights can bleach cloth WARNING !!!

A few years ago Snooker clubs  started using High Frequency strip lights for snooker tables
I think this craze started in the Leeds area and soon spread around the UK ,
out went the old Coffin  canopy shades and in came the modern lighting in tube and now LED daylight or soft white lighting .
I have recently dismantled a Match Riley Aristocrat table for a client  , this table was uncovered most of it’s life with the balls just set up on their spots and in the triangle area .
I was amazed at how the light had bleached the cloth and in fact the balls also where bleached , yet the dark mahogany wood cushion surround and leathers had remained unaffected .

Now I know this is a one off situation where the table lighting is controlled by an auto switch on PC system and that the lighting was on almost 24 hours a day in this part of the house
due to no windows , but it does show what is happening slowly but surely with these modern White light tubes , I cannot comment if this is happening on LED lighting , but just look at the photo .

7×4 Super league pool table for sale £100 spares or repair

Seen better days but could be made playable for say a Garage or youth club or patio area undercover
it is free play only as all the flip out gear has been removed and also the coin mech has now gone .

The table is an Hazel Grove Superleague 7×4 foot table it had a re-cover around 1 year ago and has been used in a 6th form rest area in a college .
I had two of these come in , the other one was scrap , in my opinion this one is in much better condition .

As can be seen the trim would require straightening out on the door window area or just remove  , there is no door keys but it is open as it is now Free play .
The coin mech has been removed since this photo , but it was doing nothing as the flip out gear is fully stripped out for Home play ,
and the balls return to ends automatically without the need for pushing a coin mech in .
One cushion requires a couple of fixer screw barrels  which I have and will be with the table , it has no pocket l;liners butt these are low cost off ebay
overall for a garage or patio summer use it is good to go as it is with a couple of repairs to do , which are within most peoples ability .
£100 Cash , buyer collects and takes away from Long Eaton , the slate and cushions are worth that to most people with a 7×4 super league pool table .
table only no balls or cues are with it .
it is what it is as in photo’s bought as seen , a low cost table for renovation by buyer ……… at this Price BUYER COLLECTS !

all inquiries to Geoff at GCL Billiards

phone 07753466064
email …..c.large@btinternet.com

Any one wishing to advertise snooker or pool tables on GCL Billiards web site , just one rule .

Sellers who advertise on GCL Billiards free to list web site .

Please let me know if the table is sold as it is very embarrassing to give details out to a prospective buyer when the table is no longer available .
please remember you have advertised it on GCL Billiards for sale pages and it stays on until instructed otherwise by the seller .
I do not wish to hear from a buyer that the table is no longer available , only the seller should do this .
We have had this experience twice recently and it is not professional way to conduct business .
we do not wish to get a reputation of wasting buyers time by sending them on a wild goose chase that a table is still for sale.

a full size Burroughs and watts withdrawn as sold but failed to notify GCL Billiards until last minute of a buyer that had arranged to have it as they got a last minute better offer
if an agreed price has been agreed with buyer and the seller please honor that agreement , again this looked bad for GCL Billiards who had recommended the table for sale and introduced the buyer to the seller , our buyer was most upset !
I am pleased to say this is a rare occurrence as most sellers listing tables will contact if the table is advertised elsewhere and they have found a buyer from that process .
I will point out that we do get a very large number of hit’s on our for sale pages , looks like people know this is the place to look for tables at prices that incur no middle men fees .
We have had many success stories of table’s being sold on , and GCL billiards where the firm of choice to complete a dismantle transport and set up  service for the buyer .
And to move on your table that is for sale , being linked into a few other snooker sites we get many referrals too from Snooker forum members .
to the point that my google rating is all natural hits not paid to get on page one back door entry , I am not saying we are page one of every search it depends how you look for us .but if you are reading this , it means you have found us through a  search or by word of mouth recommendation , proof that people do find us when looking for tables for sale and table removals .
I must get emails every day of the week from so called we will get you onto first page of google for a fee agents ?

I just ignore them as we are doing very well thank you from the general public finding us from popular searches rather than paid ones ,
as an example just search Snooker table removals into Google and look down the page I think we are around 7th listed out of 16 on the first page , and we have not paid an agent to get there .
It is all down to hard work and the public looking for a specialist in the description of Billiards fitting / Snooker table for sale / Snooker tables removed  .

John Gent 9ft Snooker table NOW SOLD

 

NOW SOLD after just one  day on advertising , the buyer arranging dismantle as we speak ….just shows people do look at GCL Billiards web site for sale pages as they know they can get a table without middle men fees .
keep a look out we have a nice 8ft one coming up for sale in Beeston Nottingham , again another private table  sale this time due to bereavement .

We have a client who wishes to sell their 9ft snooker table which is located in Bingham Nottingham

John gent produced tables for the local East midlands from 1880 to 1920s  ,
above photo of Gent tables being installed in Nottingham for John Hopkin at Burnaby billiard hall . circa early 1920s or just after world war 1 .
the tall man in the hat is John hopkin my old boss’s Grand Father .

John Gent 9ft table that is for sale in very good unmolested order .
all accessories you see are with the table , a three section slate bed 6 legged table .


any inquiries to c.large@btinternet.com

Pool table for sale 6ft sized in Stapleford Nottingham . £325 ono BEEN informed it is sold ?

Been informed by the second person I sent over to this seller that the table is now sold , but awaiting confirmation from seller .

SOLD ????????

 

Here we have a 6ft pool table , I think the manufacturer is Optima but no sure , it certainly looks like one of there older series tables .
this is the smaller 6ft version so would fit into most homes , you could make an over sized dining top for this and use as a dining table if you had high enough chairs .
so if the Mrs says no just tell her you are buying her  a new dining table …..lol

a much better alternative to most small snooker tables that use tiny balls and bag nets and leathers .
much easier to maintain and lower costs to re-cover than a small snooker table .
you can purchase a set of snooker balls and play snooker on it too .

it comes with balls and triangle only . A PRIVATE SALE ! not part of GCL Billiards stock .

although cloth is in good un-ripped order it may be slightly faded .

the table is in Stapleford Nottinghamshire not far from junction 25 of M1 and just down from Bramcote roundabout and  this is a private sale for Steve Bates a friend of mine .
please email and I will forward his contact details onto you .
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