SOLD SUBJECT TO COLLECTION on august 4th 2017
PRIVATE SALE direct from selling client …..no middlemen fees !
Latest on this table ( july 21st 2017 ) TABLE NOW DISMANTLED AND COULD BE COLLECTED FROM GARAGE STORAGE for low cost pick up just hire a transit van and two men could easly load it , then get a profesional billiard fitter to call round and fit it .
We have a client in Leicestershire who has a 10ft Billiards table for sale at a reasonable £500 asking price
The Thurston made table comes with a nice period scoreboard and set of balls and cues , and is circa pre 1890 and maybe as old as 1870’s
as you can see the table has some nice figured mahogany flaming to cushions
although in my opinion the table may require a re-cover and maybe re-rubber depending on bounce left in cushions , but this would be down to buyers preference .
I would recommend an inspection to put your mind at rest and to decide what work if any you would require if any ? but the cloth looks faded .
the polish is in very good order and I would describe it has the faded wood look and not the Dark red or Brown that many of these tables where stained with .
all the cushions buttons are missing , the cushions having a nice flamed mahogany face to them as seen in the photo’s , a very nice Victorian period table .
Side shot of the table showing it is a 6 legged type , the cushions buttons are missing but a wood turner could make some of these to hide the cushion bolts
the table being pre 1890 has the brass finger top plate pocket plates .
all Billiard tables where top plates until the manufacturers started to make them inserted from the end of cushion type or hidden fixing type around 1895 .
This table has a 5 piece slate bed 1 and 1/2 inch thick , I have visited to level only in the past , and maybe fitted those nets and leathers for the previous owner of this table a well known professional County Cricket player .
The new owners would like to use the room for other purpose and I have valued the table at £500 for a quick sale , I am sure you will agree £500 for such a nice period 10ft Billiard table is well worth it .
matching period scoreboard also included in the sale , all enquiries to
I will pass on any serious inquiries to the seller and you are then free to choose who you wish to remove the table and transport it to it’s new home once sold .
21st July 2017 , visited our selling client and dismantled the table so it is ready for a DIY pick up if you wished to pick it up yourself .
just back up to garage and load onto a Hire van .
In my opinion the table will require a re-cover .
if you would like a quote for this removal and transport and any other work you may require like a re-cover , then please contact Geoff at the same email address
I got myself into some trouble the other month , when I was asked to quote for a small dining billiard table .
the lady in question was asking my availability and cost quote in renovating the playing area of a 6ft Riley dining billiard table .
I went into great detail of informing the future client that cost was the same labour rate as a full size snooker table .
only the materials used which would be around 1/3rd of the price was the only saving on price .
I also pointed out I was not available for another 8 weeks !
this promted my future client to leave me an unnecessary bad feedback on my yell saying I was rude to her ? ( yellow pages ) which I had removed as it was totally untrue in what she was making out that I had stated to her , I still have the emails sent and received to prove this .
I gave her a full break down of what it would cost and stated many fitters would not work on these table and avoid them , I take them on now and again but not in great numbers , but I did admit that I would rather work on 9ft to full size tables and had stated this on my web site in the past and was there for all to read , these small tables where very fiddly to work on and can cause problems . But I could still do the work but not for another 8 weeks .
Just to show what sort of problems these small tables throw at you , here is an example that I am working on at the moment .
rock hard crumbling rubber on this 7ft version , old 5/8th flat laminated rubber circa 1910 to 1920 .
I would have to remove the rubber and rebate the block to take 5/8th by 5/8th L shape rubber which would give a much better bounce .
as you can see it does not fall off , it was stuck on with animal glue and took me 4 hours to get all 6 cushions stripped of the old rubber alone .
my method of removing the old rock hard crumbling laminated rubber , and inch at a time taking care not to damage the rebate of the wood block .
I did try steaming them to try and soften the glue this made it worse so gave up and went back to levering them off 1 inch at a time .
the rebate cleaned up , this is OK for the depth of the 5/8th by 1/4 inch rubber but not the height of the rebate , so I had to hand plane each cushion .
I had to take off another 1/4 of an inch from the shelf of this rebate to fit the new L shape rubber .
also some nails where in the way and had to be removed otherwise it would ruin my rebate plane .
with the rebate taken down a bit more , this made sure the new 5/8th L shape rubber had a good shelf to sit on before glueing into place .
and because I had to remove some nails in the block , I made sure the block was secured back against the main body of the cushion by screwing them on .
if you have loose blocks then the slip that secures the cushion cloth will be loose and the cloth will come out .
the new rubber fitted and the corner angle shaped and undercut .
the middle angle shaped and undercut , the cushion is now ready for recovering .
this whole process with me going up to chesterfield to strip the table down and bring the cushions in , stripping the old rubber of the blocks repairing preparing the rebate , and fitting the new rubber has taken two days so far .
in that time I could have re-rubber and re-covered plus fit nets and leathers to a full size table .
I still have another days work fitting bag nets and leathers , fitting the bed cloth with traveling back up to chesterfield , and fitting the very poor condition raise and fall lifters , which had to be welded to repair them . I will post more photo’s when I finish the table .
this is the second riley diner that I have renovated for this client , his first was a 5ft version which he was sold as a 6ft from an Ebay seller , he went out and bought the 7ft because of that mistake , but if anyone wants a nice 5ft version then get in touch and I will pass on your details to the Chesterfield client .
This was what I was trying to explain why fitters do not like working on such small tables , they can take a lot of valuable time away from our main work on 9ft to full size snooker tables .
we actually lose a whole day on these small tables if the condition is like this .
so you can see why I only do one now and again . unless of course it is in excellent condition and just requires a re-cover , then no problem , but get one like this 7ft crumbling hard rubber type and your in for a long hard job to rectify it .
Today I have been over to Burton on Trent to re-cover a full size snooker table .
I have worked on this table a few times in the past , the last time in 2010 I re-rubbered the table .
the table when I arrived was in very good order , many working men’s clubs would have got at least another 2 years out of the cloth that was coming off .
but this club likes to keep the standards up to as new for it’s members .
the table only really gets played on one night a week !
The table is circa 1910 having rigidus frame leg spacing’s , where the centre legs are closer together , this is because the ridgidus design relies on cross members along each slate joint rather than the normal munting slate supports found on other manufacturers tables.
photo of cushions freeze removed sometimes we call these capping’s , to reveal steel plates , that many call Steel block cushions .
A close up of the steel plate with the name Burroughs and watts Soho Square London .
cushion covered showing middle angle
Bed cloth going on , the cloth of choice being Strachan 6811 tournament 30 oz .
some people call this 6811 gold tournament .
the printed transfer every 10ft off the roll .
two blue lines and woven gold lettering of 6811 tournament down the length of one side of the cloth
ask the fitter to see this and the transfer if you have been promised 6811 gold tournament 30 oz .
6811 30 oz tournament is the most used cloth in the industry .
the finished table , if you are wondering who the two Gentlemen in the large paintings are the one on the left is Micheal Arthur Bass ( 1st lord of Burton ) 1837 to 1909 , and the one on the right is his father Thomas Bass 1799 to 1884 as you may have worked out the owners of Bass Brewery the main employers in Burton on Trent .
there are not many of these Professional Gentleman’s clubs around anymore , not sure on the rules of membership , but in the old days you would have had to be a man of outstanding position and standing to even be considered for membership .
it is still a Men only membership club !
I thought people would be interested in some of my more unusual places of work , this is one such place that is for sure, heaped in history and tradition .
Many a game of billiards and Life pool would have been played in this club in Victorian and early Edwardian times, over a cigar and a glass of port while discussing business .
they still serve luncheons and the dining table was set when I arrived just in case someone called in for business lunch with cook on standby , but today the place was not used .
We have a another new local site we are supplying a Brand New 7ft coin operated Supreme winner installed this Saturday .
I was called out to try and rectify a warped slate on a table which was heavily packed underneath the slate with Beer mats by the previous fitter in an attempt to level it ., and after explaining the cost of S/H and new tables my client became interested in Renting a Brand New table as their current table was over 10 years old and showing it’s age .
a typical bodge is to pack under slate with beer mats , I have a much better way of rectifying dipped slates .
We went through what a second hand one would cost or a Brand New one , then I explained about our Rental offers which include two re-covers a year at Winter and summer league starts and new set of balls and cues and chalk every year .
They will now pay a rental of £18.50p or £80 per month and every bit of maintenance is included including a re-cover every 6 months in better quality Strachan 6811 cloth .
They where paying £400 a year for two re-covers from the other firm and still playing on table that was showing it’s age at over 10 years old .
the pool team had started to moan about the table .
The Rental Supreme Winner in Black pearl table would be brand new latest edition , I also explained that after taking into account what he was paying another firm for his table to be recovered twice a year in Club cloth , We would re-cover in a better quality Strachan 6811 tournament cloth and a new set of balls and full maintenance of coin operation , nothing to pay extra after taking into account putting it against their tax bill as an expense to the business and the tax relief it was easy to see the deal suited them .
I suggested they advertise their table which had only just been re-covered , Which I believe they sold very quickly , and have now arranged for the New table to be installed this Saturday .
Two of our Rental supreme winners in Black pearl tables that where installed at a local Stapleford pub .
there are a few differences from an old table that have been improved upon on the latest models , for example the slotted new ball rails means less of jump back out of pocket falls that you used to get with the old ball rails .
an older type ball rail of the Supreme winner , it is possible to have new rails fitted to old tables though .
also the latest editions have solid cast metal chrome corners , you can tell the difference from the older plastic chrome corners this metal one has raised lettering .
and thinner slimmer alloy trim behind the cushions .
The older plastic ones eventually lose the chrome plating and you can see the Supreme writing is sunken into the plastic and has no raised letters .
you may notice that the old ones can sometimes have black plastic trims just behind the cushions which break easy and the table always looks a mess , the later ones have alloy trims .
My client was very lucky that I had a spare Brand new one in stock , there is a 6 to 8 week waiting time for new tables to come out of the Factory , my next batch are due in on 31st of August .
I buy my Supreme winner 7ft coin op tables in pairs and they normally get installed within a few weeks of coming into stock as rental tables .
we are expanding our local sites as we go along steady and slowly increasing our superb two re-cover rental solution to pub landlords .
the word is getting out around the local pubs and clubs and we have new clients monthly inquiring about our pool table rental terms .
At GCL billiards we are a Maintenance company for Full size snooker table / American Pool tables / and UK pool tables .
I am aiming to set a limit on the amount of Rental tables we can operate along side our Cue sports table repair business .
We are slowly getting towards just over half way to our target of 40 local tables out on rental contracts .
May I point point out we are fully cue sports maintenance only table fitters , and do not operate gaming machines or football tables , therefore you have our 100% concentration on maintaining your Pool table and not sidelined to repair other types of amusement machines .
You have to ask yourself when looking for a pool table rental company , Would you want a one arm bandit mechanic to work on your pool or snooker table or a fully qualified time served Billiards fitter with over 40 years experience maintain it ?
our standards are that much better than the one arm Bandit fitter .